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[Sjorpha]

Visibility does seem like a bigger factor than heat, and I think framerate issues is probably a thing for some people as well. I like the low visibility maps and I'm very annoyed of the lack of variation in the voting. Random maps would be much better, at least for me.

[Rushmoar]

PGI should add a sun in the skyline and make it the hottest map in the game. The only cool spot would be in the basement. Let see how the votes play out then.

[PocketYoda]

Rushmoar, on 12 March 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

PGI should add a sun in the skyline and make it the hottest map in the game. The only cool spot would be in the basement. Let see how the votes play out then.

They did its a Faction War map..

[Nema Nabojiv]

Rushmoar, on 12 March 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

PGI should add a sun in the skyline and make it the hottest map in the game. The only cool spot would be in the basement. Let see how the votes play out then.

that is actually an interesting idea for a new map, if its even possible. Those lava streams on therma suggest it is possible

Like that Mass Effect 2 map where you need to stay in shadows.

Edited by Nema Nabojiv, 12 March 2018 - 07:35 AM.

[K O Z A K]

Interesting, I almost never get hpg since incur/escort even though its one of my fav maps. Its basically a terrain park for mechs, the only ****** part about it is the nascar in qp because everyone plays selfish

If you hate map voting so much play FP, no map voting, additional maps AND no nascar

[justcallme A S H]

Another topic by a Mechdad-topic bomber.

Use that 9x and run your bracket builds y0

[Variant1]

thats weird for me hpg is very rare, however i constantly get polar and frozen. too many cold maps we need more hot maps make people feel the burn yeeee

Edited by Variant1, 12 March 2018 - 11:20 AM.

[McGoat]

El Bandito, on 11 March 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

I can't see **** in Therma, and Bog, which is why I do not vote for them. Same reason I never vote for Forest. For me visual clarity is top priority.

Bog can be tricky, but on Therma/Caustic I am partial to night vision. It takes some getting used to but it works better for my eyes.

I also really like Terra and Caustic and will almost exclusively vote for them for a few reasons, one of them being that in QP they reduce the complete ********** because folks have to try to pay attention to heat and actually put some thought into the game over "rotate right".

(I hate QP)

Edited by McGoat, 12 March 2018 - 10:35 AM.

[MechaBattler]

Get rid of map voting already! **** your optimal build!

[mogs01gt]

Gaussfather, on 11 March 2018 - 05:35 PM, said:

This voting has the QP game firmly in the tyranny of democracy... aka HPG Manifold, Frozen City, and Polar Highlands... any remotely warm map is almost never taken. But I think the worst offender must be HPG Manifold...

I find it the most boring map in terms of scenery and gameplay... too many corners that block your shots etc.but more than anything I'm just sick of it... because its almost always picked especially when there is an "event" because everyone knows they can rush to the middle, die, and play again quicker than on the other maps.

Can we see some statistics on which maps are chosen by the voting system? Because I feel like PGI should just rebrand it MWO: HPG endless Manifold

Voting is the worst "feature" PGI has made.

[K O Z A K]

McGoat, on 12 March 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

Bog can be tricky, but on Therma/Caustic I am partial to night vision. It takes some getting used to but it works better for my eyes.

I also really like Terra and Caustic and will almost exclusively vote for them for a few reasons, one of them being that in QP they reduce the complete ********** because folks have to try to pay attention to heat and actually put some thought into the game over "rotate right".

(I hate QP)

Really? I find that caustic is like rotate right central, I think its the worst map for it because on top of obvious map design that leads to it you are actually discouraged from going over the center with heat

[Domyalex]

Sjorpha, on 12 March 2018 - 12:13 AM, said:

Visibility does seem like a bigger factor than heat, and I think framerate issues is probably a thing for some people as well. I like the low visibility maps and I'm very annoyed of the lack of variation in the voting. Random maps would be much better, at least for me.

^This

I don't like Terra/Forest because I can't see anything. When Grim Plexus comes I'm all giddy and happy as I can *see* (and I don't feel like tweaking contrast just for those couple of maps).

TBH, lately map rotation seems to have lately improved for me; a few weeks ago it was Polar all the frigging time.

[El Bandito]

McGoat, on 12 March 2018 - 10:31 AM, said:

I also really like Terra and Caustic and will almost exclusively vote for them for a few reasons, one of them being that in QP they reduce the complete ********** because folks have to try to pay attention to heat and actually put some thought into the game over "rotate right".

(I hate QP)

Meh, pugs in Therma always tend to fight in the middle and in Caustic they generally nascar one direction. Very predictable.

[El Bandito]

mogs01gt, on 12 March 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

Voting is the worst "feature" PGI has made.

Would be ironic if the whole map voting mechanic was the result of some part of the community whining to PGI on having at least some control over making their mechs suit the map.

[Nightbird]

El Bandito, on 12 March 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

Would be ironic if the whole map voting mechanic was the result of some part of the community whining to PGI on having at least some control over making their mechs suit the map.

Never! The community is never wrong!

[mogs01gt]

El Bandito, on 12 March 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

Would be ironic if the whole map voting mechanic was the result of some part of the community whining to PGI on having at least some control over making their mechs suit the map.

Who ever wanted this needs banned from the game.

[Cold Darkness]

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(and I don't feel like tweaking contrast just for those couple of maps).

this is probably the biggest issue with "low visibility" maps. people play a sim and complain about non perfect visibility. the game offers different view modes with different downsides for a reason.
its sad that gamma and contrast tweaks are used in this way in all kinds of games. but it is to be expected when you try to push for the whole "competetive" crap. all humans are scumbags that need every advantage they (or others) can think of.

oh, just in case: my issue is not with you personally, its with that mentality overall. some people gamma up their games so night becomes day, which defeats the point entirely.

but if it was a singleplayer game, theyd probably wouldnt even give a **** about it, because its just another interesting element of the battlefield. makes one wonder how they would want a vietnam war game to be.
great, now i reminded myself of vietcong again :< why is there no vietcong 3 ?

Edited by Cold Darkness, 13 March 2018 - 09:18 AM.

[K O Z A K]

Cold Darkness, on 13 March 2018 - 09:18 AM, said:

this is probably the biggest issue with "low visibility" maps. people play a sim and complain about non perfect visibility. the game offers different view modes with different downsides for a reason.
its sad that gamma and contrast tweaks are used in this way in all kinds of games. but it is to be expected when you try to push for the whole "competetive" crap. all humans are scumbags that need every advantage they (or others) can think of.

oh, just in case: my issue is not with you personally, its with that mentality overall. some people gamma up their games so night becomes day, which defeats the point entirely.

but if it was a singleplayer game, theyd probably wouldnt even give a **** about it, because its just another interesting element of the battlefield. makes one wonder how they would want a vietnam war game to be.
great, now i reminded myself of vietcong again :< why is there no vietcong 3 ?

it wouldn't be so bad if the night vision/thermal devices on 100 ton war machines in the distant future would be at least as good as the ones you can buy at bass pro in 2018

[FupDup]

Maybe if Cancer Valley and Mordor weren't badly designed maps, they would get voted for more often. But since they're trash, they deserve to rot at the bottom of the list until they become not trash.

Deathstar isn't a bad map on its own merits, it just gets ruined by the community's hive mind instinct to constantly rotate around the center counter-clockwise.

The only other map that gets ruined by Nascar harder than Deathstar is Cancer Valley, the latter of which was pretty much precision-engineered for the singular purpose of promoting and enforcing Nascar. It's probably the map that most contributed to the birth of the phenomenon.

[Khobai]

they could also embrace nascar by adding a racing gamemode

and it would probably be better than any existing gamemode



caustic valley deathrace gamemode

team race. theres 6 teams of 4 mechs. with one mech of each weight class on each team.

win condition is for one mech on your team to win the race (10 laps or whatever)

have to go counterclockwise around the caldera. if you slow down below 50kph your mech explodes.

you can shoot whatever mechs you want because its a deathrace.

special consumables like banana peels and turtle shells

Edited by Khobai, 13 March 2018 - 01:46 PM.