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[Siegegun]

Great game OP, good example of how to backstab skillfully. Others are pointing out how you engaged targets that didn't require much "skill", but isn't that how you do it in a 20 ton light? Not all skill in this game is twitch based, tactical awareness and wisely moving through the map is a skill that is very important in this game.

JackalBeast, on 22 March 2018 - 02:49 AM, said:

ummm ya. Some pilots don't stroke their epeen like you do Nightbird. Some of us drop in varied builds and don't run the exact same mech all of the time. IE skilling multiple new mechs every month.

Why are you attacking Nightbird here? Nightbird stroked no epeen that I can see... thr exact opposite in fact he was complimenting someone else's stats for this season. Whats with the random attack? completely off subject.

[kapusta11]

Oxide and 6 cSPL Cheetah were deemed OP so I dunno, you tell me. I don't agree that they were but 1k damage in 50 seconds of firing, 20 dps? This **** is broken IMO.

[Jackal Noble]

Siegegun, on 22 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

Great game OP, good example of how to backstab skillfully. Others are pointing out how you engaged targets that didn't require much "skill", but isn't that how you do it in a 20 ton light? Not all skill in this game is twitch based, tactical awareness and wisely moving through the map is a skill that is very important in this game.




Why are you attacking Nightbird here? Nightbird stroked no epeen that I can see... thr exact opposite in fact he was complimenting someone else's stats for this season. Whats with the random attack? completely off subject.

What about that was an attack? It was a frigging rebuff. He brought that players kdr and wlr into the picture. Try again.

Edited by JackalBeast, 22 March 2018 - 03:26 AM.

[Jackal Noble]

I admit my initial assertion was off, I assumed he was saying that because Darian's kdr and wlr was X that the PIR must be OP for a pilot of such calibre to achieve a high score.

[Siegegun]

JackalBeast, on 22 March 2018 - 03:31 AM, said:

I admit my initial assertion was off, I assumed he was saying that because Darian's kdr and wlr was X that the PIR must be OP for a pilot of such calibre to achieve a high score.

Things like that happen, misreads happen in this format. I was just taken aback because all he did was compliment him and ask what he had been running. Some people are into stats and what others are running and what their stats are.

[Darian DelFord]

I can not quote because of the work computer settings, however a poster above hit the nail on the head.... AMMO EXPLOSIONS.

To many folks come here and want to nerf nerf nerf because the see a light mech do awesome damage. But the culprit here are 1 or 2 ammo explosions. Nothing OP here, just knowing how to play a light and luck.

[Jackal Noble]

Darian DelFord, on 22 March 2018 - 03:37 AM, said:

I can not quote because of the work computer settings, however a poster above hit the nail on the head.... AMMO EXPLOSIONS.

To many folks come here and want to nerf nerf nerf because the see a light mech do awesome damage. But the culprit here are 1 or 2 ammo explosions. Nothing OP here, just knowing how to play a light and luck.

Sunspiders help :-P
Great match Darian.

[PocketYoda]

Overpowered stupidity, if it wasn't you'd never be able to do it in the first place.. Saying simpletons and potatoes really explains what is wrong with this games community..

[Curccu]

kapusta11, on 22 March 2018 - 03:02 AM, said:

Oxide and 6 cSPL Cheetah were deemed OP so I dunno, you tell me. I don't agree that they were but 1k damage in 50 seconds of firing, 20 dps? This **** is broken IMO.

60,5 seconds, strike that hit at least 4 times and possible ammo explosions.
I would also try playing a Piranha or even just any light mech before claiming something is OP.

[Curccu]

Samial, on 22 March 2018 - 03:47 AM, said:

Overpowered stupidity, if it wasn't you'd never be able to do it in the first place.. Saying simpletons and potatoes really explains what is wrong with this games community..

Simpletons and potatoes cannot understand that pretty much any other not subpar light can do same, most of them don't even have come nearly as close to the target and have that facetime.

Some light/Piranha pilot should make compilation of received 1-shot deaths, taking critical damage from 1 alpha way behind your it's own maximum range or getting hit by a strike (received one few days ago and my mech went from 100% to 53%).

[Lethe Wyvern]

Curccu, on 22 March 2018 - 03:59 AM, said:

Simpletons and potatoes cannot understand that pretty much any other not subpar light can do same, most of them don't even have come nearly as close to the target and have that facetime.

Some light/Piranha pilot should make compilation of received 1-shot deaths, taking critical damage from 1 alpha way behind your it's own maximum range or getting hit by a strike (received one few days ago and my mech went from 100% to 53%).

Absolutely agree, and i have to add something: most of them are never played light mechs at all/or played ~30 matches in 3 years.

[PocketYoda]

Curccu, on 22 March 2018 - 03:59 AM, said:

Simpletons and potatoes cannot understand that pretty much any other not subpar light can do same, most of them don't even have come nearly as close to the target and have that facetime.

Some light/Piranha pilot should make compilation of received 1-shot deaths, taking critical damage from 1 alpha way behind your it's own maximum range or getting hit by a strike (received one few days ago and my mech went from 100% to 53%).

Then show me these other non subpar light mechs getting 1k damage in 2018, non machine gun mechs please..

Edited by Samial, 22 March 2018 - 04:15 AM.

[Kaeb Odellas]

Curccu, on 22 March 2018 - 01:37 AM, said:

Then let's see how long it takes a dual gauss Direwolf to kill a Piranha ? If it's on it's back - split second. How is that ok?

Given how braindead easy it is to get behind a Dire Wolf in almost any light mech, this is a stupid comparison.

The Dire Wolf can carry more than double the weight of an entire Piranha in weapons and ammo alone, and pays for it by being big, slow, and easy to hit. It damn well better be able to one-shot a Piranha if the Piranha was fool enough to give it the chance.

[Bud Crue]

Samial, on 22 March 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

Then show me these other non subpar light mechs getting 1k damage in 2018, non machine gun mechs please..

All this will do, is get folks posting screen shots of their games where they kicked butt in a light. It means nothing with out the back up data that we have no access to.

As to the larger issue of the Piranha being OP relative to other lights...anecdotally, I would say yes, yes it is. On the other hand that is pure subjective opinion. No point in going further. Hell, from a subjective point of view, the Death's Knells that Twinky and Proton were playing in group queue last night are the most OP mechs in the game based on what I saw them do with them. Could I get that level of performance? Hell no. And this point goes to the issue that the OP was raising: A good player (or in the case of those Death Knells last night, great players) in ANY mech can do well if not dominate, the rest of us just stand there and twist while we hope not to die. That, by itself, doesn't make the mech in question OP.

[Old dirty B]

Samial, on 22 March 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

Then show me these other non subpar light mechs getting 1k damage in 2018, non machine gun mechs please..

Non MG boating lights need far less damage to be nearly as effective. A light boating pulse lasers need perhaps 2/3, maybe even less of that damage to take out a component or destroy an enemy.

For me, it doesn't matter how much damage is done at all, its all about how that damage is focussed, thats what makes a light (or a light pilot if you wish) effective.

Edited by Old dirty B, 22 March 2018 - 04:31 AM.

[dario03]

Samial, on 22 March 2018 - 03:47 AM, said:

Overpowered stupidity, if it wasn't you'd never be able to do it in the first place.. Saying simpletons and potatoes really explains what is wrong with this games community..

How do you figure he wouldn't be able to do it? Multiple people have pointed out that he basically got a bunch of free backshots including a completely free afk kill and a good strike with almost no return fire. What is op about that?

[arcana75]

Well I don't think Sean Lang is a particularly good pilot but even he scored 19xx damage recently.

Any mech is as good as the enemy is bad.

[dario03]

arcana75, on 22 March 2018 - 04:51 AM, said:

Well I don't think Sean Lang is a particularly good pilot but even he scored 19xx damage recently.

Any mech is as good as the enemy is bad.

Did he get focused much? A lot of super high damage matches, especially light ones are from being ignored.

[Curccu]

dario03, on 22 March 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

How do you figure he wouldn't be able to do it? Multiple people have pointed out that he basically got a bunch of free backshots including a completely free afk kill and a good strike with almost no return fire. What is op about that?

Slaying them potatoes for free or slaying non-potato enemies while they are engaged with other mech(s), 2v1 with equally skilled players is pretty much unwinnable situation.

Samial, on 22 March 2018 - 04:14 AM, said:

Then show me these other non subpar light mechs getting 1k damage in 2018, non machine gun mechs please..

By same I meant kill mechs, damage itself isn't the goal, kills and winning is. ANY mech in the game can get that 1000 damage game heck one good strike can do hundreds of damage.

but sure Wolfhounds, laser ACH, SRM Javelin, K-9 for example, all of those have better K/D and excluding laser ACH better average damage also than PIR-1

Kaeb Odellas, on 22 March 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

Given how braindead easy it is to get behind a Dire Wolf in almost any light mech, this is a stupid comparison.

The Dire Wolf can carry more than double the weight of an entire Piranha in weapons and ammo alone, and pays for it by being big, slow, and easy to hit. It damn well better be able to one-shot a Piranha if the Piranha was fool enough to give it the chance.

I'm fine with both ways... getting 1 shotted in light but if I risk my light mech life getting behind dire within 100 meters I feel it is ok to be able to kill it.

PS. if you didn't realize this previous quote was semi-troll.

[Curccu]

arcana75, on 22 March 2018 - 04:51 AM, said:

Well I don't think Sean Lang is a particularly good pilot but even he scored 19xx damage recently.

Any mech is as good as the enemy is bad.

https://leaderboard....rch?u=sean+lang Not the best but far from potato. + He gets special MWO celebrity focus.