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[Dem0niah]

What is this? today im playing a normal map, and i find myself against a mech that can not be narc'd? is this true? Before anyone comments on the obvious stuff, no he was not out of range, nothing blocking etc etc etc, just face to face in the open, and the NARC just bounced of him every time.
Exploit? Mech attribute? anyone know plz.

Edits;
*Not AMS, and i am not sure a second ECM near by would cause the NARC missile to bounce of the mech and land on the floor everytime.

*Thanks for the responses, i have payed attention to more games, and it appears it could be a friendly mech near by with ECM, HOWEVER i dont understand why the projectile appears to fall on the floor still, and does not register at all.

Edited by Dem0niah, 23 March 2018 - 02:06 PM.

[Spheroid]

AMS

[Jack Booted Thug]

An ECM enemy close to the mech? Narced enemy can be concealed by another enemy while inside their ECM bubble. However, an ECM enemy who is narced is not concealed by their own bubble - but can be concealed by a second enemy ECM.

[Bombast]

Probably just missed, actually.

Edited by Bombast, 23 March 2018 - 11:08 AM.

[Dragonporn]

There's something really wrong with NARC targetting. I'm not half bad at aiming, with pretty much any weapon system out there, but with NARC I can miss target almost point blank multiple times in a row. I don't understand why, I just carry more NARCs to compensate...

P.S. I'm not sure AMS can target NARC, correct me if I'm wrong.

[BumbleBee]

AMS does target all missile, including NARC and SRM's

[Lykaon]

Dragonporn, on 23 March 2018 - 11:55 AM, said:

There's something really wrong with NARC targetting. I'm not half bad at aiming, with pretty much any weapon system out there, but with NARC I can miss target almost point blank multiple times in a row. I don't understand why, I just carry more NARCs to compensate...

P.S. I'm not sure AMS can target NARC, correct me if I'm wrong.

Had a few suspect misses yesterday that looked odd.

Mech in use was a Kitfox so a clan NARC with a 600m range.

One was a straight shot at the rear of a stationary Madcat MKII from under 300m with no AMS being evident.

The other was a face to face stick and dash attempt on an Annihilator that literally filled my field of view being under 100m out. Also no AMS seemed present.

Both shots were wiffs for some unknown reason.

[IllCaesar]

The NARC always seemed iffy as to whether it actually hits or not. You're compensating for its arc, right?

[Dragonporn]

In point blank, I usually don't...

[Mechwarrior9194373]

AMS 100%

[Sjorpha]

Note that the AMS doesn't necessarily have to be on the mech you're trying to narc.

Personally haven't noted any hitreg problems with Narc, but they are very easy to miss with and dodge due to the low velocity.

[Exilyth]

Narc is the hardest missile weapon to use - getting that single dart to stick is tricky.

Things to be aware of:

• The projectile is hard to impossible to see - best to to go to training grounds and get a feel for it.
  
• The narc launcher needs to be unobstructed - had a few matches with my RVN where I hit terrain because the launcher wasn't exposed. Knowing where the dart exits the launcher on your mech helps a lot.
  
• The above make hitting moving targets much harder - I often need to lead much more/less than with other weapons.
  
• Invisible walls on maps. Sometimes, the only help is feeling around with a laser where the obstacle ends (but this can alert enemies to your position).
  
• Aiming a bit higher than center of mass and then correcting for movement seems to give the best results. Had narc darts go between legs and under arms, which is hard to notice since the projectile is so hard to see.

Narc is that one weapon I really wish we could manually disable convergence for to get more consistent behaviour.

[Asym]

Lag miss. What you saw wasn't where he was,

[skb]

Lol! Narc problem.
Just from a drop with my LRM
200meter distance to Anni stend still, narced and add my tag to that with 600 lrms. non of components are open, not even a single one red or damaged. Dude with name Titan xm or something like that just overheat him self lately and let some one to kill him and just had KMD for that guy.
PGI sucks as always for all years with this game or _scaryword_ HAX.

[Vellron2005]

Dem0niah, on 23 March 2018 - 10:47 AM, said:

What is this? today im playing a normal map, and i find myself against a mech that can not be narc'd? is this true? Before anyone comments on the obvious stuff, no he was not out of range, nothing blocking etc etc etc, just face to face in the open, and the NARC just bounced of him every time.
Exploit? Mech attribute? anyone know plz.

Edits;
*Not AMS, and i am not sure a second ECM near by would cause the NARC missile to bounce of the mech and land on the floor everytime.

*Thanks for the responses, i have payed attention to more games, and it appears it could be a friendly mech near by with ECM, HOWEVER i dont understand why the projectile appears to fall on the floor still, and does not register at all.

Finally someone else other than me who noticed this! I have NARC on two mechs.. my Kitfox, and my Arctic Cheetah.. On the Cheetah, about 1/3 NARC shots to a mech's CT (in range, no ams, no counters, no ECM etc.etc.) don't hit. On the Kitfox, it's about 1/2..

I've therefore started NARC-ing from nearly point-blank range, like less than 100 meters.. successful NARC shots remained about the same.. some shots simply bounce off..