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[razenWing]

Fighting a streak mech today. Turned on stealth... still got targetted.

Died.

Unitmate, same thing... turned on stealth. Watch him streaked to death.

Um...

Did I miss something?

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Yes.

Stealt activates when you are not targetted. If you are it activates when you become untargetted.

[El Bandito]

PPC hit disables stealth armor. Could be that.

[The Basilisk]

Any armor breach also kills your stealth armor.
Further your ECM has to be set to disrupt.
If you set it to counter your stealth goes offline.

[justcallme A S H]

razenWing, on 26 March 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

Fighting a streak mech today. Turned on stealth... still got targetted.

Died.

Unitmate, same thing... turned on stealth. Watch him streaked to death.

Um...

Did I miss something?

See HERE

and then some further testing of it... SEE HERE

I don't believe it's had anything done about it.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

justcallme A S H, on 27 March 2018 - 05:08 AM, said:

See HERE

and then some further testing of it... SEE HERE

I don't believe it's had anything done about it.

I think this particular bug was fixed, but it took a long time. Completely different thing than OPs case.

[JediPanther]

A streak mech that was smart enough to use bap/cap/tag and/or launch a uav. I swear I get more uses out of a uav than anything else when I need to cancel out ecm that I should really invest in the aux tree some time.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Stealth armor isn't a get out of jail free card. If the Streaker already had a lock on you, it was too late to activate the armor.

[Davegt27]

I been trying to figure out how I got killed the other day in FP

ok here is the crazy plan,
some mechs with stealth armor are supposed to jump the gate while the main force is engaged the striker Mechs would
make it to the generators and do as much damage as possible (yeah crazy plan)

ok two of us jump the gate and the turret at the gate ignores us because we have stealth armor (cool)
we get up near the gens and a DW spots us (why a DW was way in the back is another mystery)

to my shock I get killed by a turret

windows DVR stopped working so hitting "windows key + G" did not work so I could review the video
the only thing I can think of is ECM has a health of 3 and my ECM got knocked out from the DW
and that also knocked out the stealth armor??

any thoughts
sort of reminds me of FP 2.0 when you could sneak in solo and PGI would do all kinds of stuff (make you blow up, or the Gen would take no damage, or the turrets would kill you)

[razenWing]

I want to revisit this a little bit...

EVEN if someone had lock before you turned on stealth (which in this case, seems unlikely), the fact that the lock remains AFTER you turn on stealth doesn't seem correct. (Logically speaking)

Also, BAP is not supposed to break stealth, nothing break stealth except when it's actually off.

Simply, your streak mech is supposed to be entirely worthless against a stealth mech. That's how it's sold and advertised.

PS I reported that guy for cheating.

Edited by razenWing, 30 March 2018 - 02:58 AM.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

razenWing, on 30 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

I want to revisit this a little bit...

EVEN if someone had lock before you turned on stealth (which in this case, seems unlikely), the fact that the lock remains AFTER you turn on stealth doesn't seem correct. (Logically speaking)

Also, BAP is not supposed to break stealth, nothing break stealth except when it's actually off.

Simply, your streak mech is supposed to be entirely worthless against a stealth mech. That's how it's sold and advertised.

PS I reported that guy for cheating.

Don't confuse lock into targetting. If you are targetted, the stealth will not activate. I have stealth on two mechs, Javelin and Stalker. With Stalker I often go around to flank the enemy, and I use the stealth to walk under/close UAVs past enemies.(tourmaline very typical map where there is lots of small visual cover and lots of open space too)

Actually now that I think about it, I think the stealt will eventually activate if you are targetted, but with a delay. While if you aren't targetted, it's instant. Anyway just use it how it works, engaging streak mechs is possible as long as they don't have tag, but you need to activate it first.

Correct probe neither ECM counter mode doesn't effect stealth, it was originally bugged to even be effected by them but fixed.

And yes, tag and PPCs break stealth. Narc too.

Edited by Teer Kerensky, 30 March 2018 - 04:25 AM.

[razenWing]

Teer Kerensky, on 30 March 2018 - 04:24 AM, said:

Don't confuse lock into targetting. If you are targetted, the stealth will not activate. I have stealth on two mechs, Javelin and Stalker. With Stalker I often go around to flank the enemy, and I use the stealth to walk under/close UAVs past enemies.(tourmaline very typical map where there is lots of small visual cover and lots of open space too)

Actually now that I think about it, I think the stealt will eventually activate if you are targetted, but with a delay. While if you aren't targetted, it's instant. Anyway just use it how it works, engaging streak mechs is possible as long as they don't have tag, but you need to activate it first.

Correct probe neither ECM counter mode doesn't effect stealth, it was originally bugged to even be effected by them but fixed.

And yes, tag and PPCs break stealth. Narc too.

nah, other guy wasn't using tag or ppc. we weren't narc-ed either

[justcallme A S H]

razenWing, on 30 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

EVEN if someone had lock before you turned on stealth (which in this case, seems unlikely), the fact that the lock remains AFTER you turn on stealth doesn't seem correct. (Logically speaking)

PS I reported that guy for cheating.

So you clearly did not read the stuff I posted. As my testing directly answers that.

And you reported for cheating?

L.O.L.

[Escef]

Here's a crazy idea: record your matches and post the footage so we can dissect it looking explanations you may have missed in the heat of battle.

[Bombast]

razenWing, on 30 March 2018 - 02:58 AM, said:

PS I reported that guy for cheating.

So you falsely reported someone for something you didn't understand.

Yup. That's in line with most hackusations.

[Khobai]

youre better off just not using stealth armor

its not worth the crits

[razenWing]

justcallme A S H, on 30 March 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

So you clearly did not read the stuff I posted. As my testing directly answers that.

And you reported for cheating?

L.O.L.

To be fair, I reported him before I made the thread. Also, my context clues would imply that I DID read your thread. I said the mechanics doesn't make sense logically, I didn't say I didn't believe your results.