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[K19]

Plz Plz. Take out the mech quirks on S7. There are only the quirks of the mech iron pellets or the tech that you can not apply to the mech as the Mualer armor does not work. It has the example of division 7 that and a joke has mech has more shielding than the own one. MC mech realy.

[Horseman]

K19, on 22 April 2018 - 07:09 PM, said:

Plz Plz. Take out the mech quirks on S7.

The quirks play an important role in balancing the chassis against each other.

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the Mualer armor does not work.

Most Maulers are in Div 1, duking it out with Annihilators and the like, the only exception being Knockout.

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It has the example of division 7 that and a joke has mech has more shielding than the own one.

You mean the Vindicator?
VND-1X with max armor and full survival tree gets 53/19 armor/structure in arms, 74/30 sides, 91/38 center and 73/30 legs.
Maulers with max armor and full survival tree get 67/30 arms, 84/61 sides, 129/74 center and 84/48 legs.
Were you trying to run it on stock armor values and distribution? If so, that one's on you. A Solaris mech has to have max - or nearly max - armor and at minimum eight armor nodes in Survival tree.
Other than that, if your armor doesn't work then you're not rolling damage properly.

Edited by Horseman, 22 April 2018 - 11:14 PM.

[K19]

Horseman, on 22 April 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

The quirks play an important role in balancing the chassis against each other.
Most Maulers are in Div 1, duking it out with Annihilators and the like, the only exception being Knockout.

You mean the Vindicator?
VND-1X with max armor and full survival tree gets 53/19 armor/structure in arms, 74/30 sides, 91/38 center and 73/30 legs.
Maulers with max armor and full survival tree get 67/30 arms, 84/61 sides, 129/74 center and 84/48 legs.
Were you trying to run it on stock armor values and distribution? If so, that one's on you. A Solaris mech has to have max - or nearly max - armor and at minimum eight armor nodes in Survival tree.
Other than that, if your armor doesn't work then you're not rolling damage properly.

Check your information, not the PGI database because of the quirks data and joke. Mualer is described as special shielding. Already VND-1X and a mech joke have soft armor.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mauler *** 3038 year
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Annihilator *** 3009 year
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vindicator *** 2826 year VND-1X armor joke use 3 tips armor only have 2 3+1 FF use same damage 30 you need not miss all remove 1 army joke.

Edited by K19, 23 April 2018 - 05:46 AM.

[Horseman]

K19, on 23 April 2018 - 05:39 AM, said:

Mualer is described as special shielding.

No, per Sarna it uses regular Ferro-Fibrous Armor - the "New Samarkand Royal" branding is just fluff with no mechanical effect. Same applies to "Starshield Special-b" branding on the Annihilator's Standard Armor.

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VND-1X armor joke use 3 tips armor only have 2 3+1 FF use same damage 30 you need not miss all remove 1 army joke.

That was incomprehensible. Try rephrasing?

Edited by Horseman, 23 April 2018 - 07:22 AM.

[paws2sky]

Free mech? Thanks, PGI!

-paws
Forever "Space Broke" due to the cost of skilling up new mechs.

[K19]

Horseman, on 23 April 2018 - 07:22 AM, said:

No, per Sarna it uses regular Ferro-Fibrous Armor - the "New Samarkand Royal" branding is just fluff with no mechanical effect. Same applies to "Starshield Special-b" branding on the Annihilator's Standard Armor.

That was incomprehensible. Try rephrasing?

The answer is the following using this example and the images disclosed. My mech does a total of 35 damage.





Joining this shield was the structure plus the FerroFibrous and over 10 * 2.1% in the armor skills. How much will you give? I only have 35 damage.

Edited by K19, 23 April 2018 - 03:39 PM.

[Horseman]

K19, on 23 April 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

The answer is the following using this example and the images disclosed. My mech does a total of 35 damage.

Joining this shield was the structure plus the FerroFibrous and over 10 * 2.1% in the armor skills. How much will you give? I only have 35 damage.

Ah, there we go... Ferro-Fibrous armor does not increase your durability. It just reduces the tonnage your armor takes up.

[Aramuside]

Alan Hicks, on 20 April 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

All right, thanks for the heads up. I already know the mech is frail and the community did not liked it that much.

I'm all for under dog mechs but have to admit the only role I found to work personally on the uziel was as a ppc poptart which it does decently. From memory I used heavy PPC's but its been a while now. That said its not good when I compare it unfavourably to my Vindicators though I have weirdly always enjoyed those.

Still a free mech is a free mech.

[Chiasson Brinker]

I've rejigged mine to fit an MRM/10 and three machine guns in place of the LBX, and it serves me well enough. I left the engine stock, but shifted the armour distribution around a bit. I'm happy with mine.

[K19]

Horseman, on 23 April 2018 - 10:37 PM, said:

Ah, there we go... Ferro-Fibrous armor does not increase your durability. It just reduces the tonnage your armor takes up.

Responds . FF should be given more protection so the PGI lady does not want to insert the other shielding in the game. Two examples -Reactive Armor -Reflective Armor

http://www.sarna.net.../Category:Armor

So S7 and joke. No skills required. Only know how to use the rules.

[Akillius]

Thank you PGI for free mech!
See a lot of complaints in topic and off topic stuff.
But no matter how many mechs owned, I always appreciate getting a free mech.

[Horseman]

K19, on 24 April 2018 - 05:52 AM, said:

Responds . FF should be given more protection
http://www.sarna.net.../Category:Armor

FF never did that in tabletop. It provides more points per ton, but a point of Ferro is equal to a point of Standard - their mass is the only difference.
The armor type you're actually thinking of was the Hardened Armor, which does provide more protection per point but was not in mass production until 3090s.
You were basically complaining that PGI doesn't follow your personal house rules which disregard the technological canon entirely.

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so the PGI lady does not want to insert the other shielding in the game. Two examples -Reactive Armor -Reflective Armor

If you only read the articles on Sarna with a degree of comprehension you'd understand that many specialized armor types do not become available until much later in the timeline - Reactive and Reflective Armor in 3080s, Ballistic-Reinforced Armor in 3130s and Impact Resistant Armor in 3100s.

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So S7 and joke. No skills required. Only know how to use the rules.

Actually, S7 requires skills - in building mechs, in recognizing enemy loadout from the preview, in developing a strategy to counter the enemy loadout, in using the environment to your advantage and, yes, in actual combat. If you expect only a single skill to carry you to victory, you've lost before the match has even begun.

[Dee Eight]

K19, on 23 April 2018 - 05:39 AM, said:

Check your information, not the PGI database because of the quirks data and joke. Mualer is described as special shielding. Already VND-1X and a mech joke have soft armor.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mauler *** 3038 year
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Annihilator *** 3009 year
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vindicator *** 2826 year VND-1X armor joke use 3 tips armor only have 2 3+1 FF use same damage 30 you need not miss all remove 1 army joke.

LOL...Starshield special was a brand name of armor, there was nothing particularly "special" about it. In real world present day terms...its like one body armor maker using "kevlar" and another using "aramid fiber" while both are technically the same thing. Except the former is the trademarked name belonging to the Dupont company, and the other is the generic term for what kevlar is.

[Horseman]

Dee Eight, on 24 April 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

LOL...Starshield special was a brand name of armor, there was nothing particularly "special" about it. In real world present day terms...its like one body armor maker using "kevlar" and another using "aramid fiber" while both are technically the same thing. Except the former is the trademarked name belonging to the Dupont company, and the other is the generic term for what kevlar is.

Read on... he expects Ferro-Fibrous to provide additional armor, like Hardened Armor does in tabletop (WTF?).
Also, he apparently wanted to play Solaris with an almost-stock Vindicator.
... yyyeahhh.

Edited by Horseman, 24 April 2018 - 10:09 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

It got added today after playing 2 matches.

How odd

[MrKvola]

Dee Eight, on 24 April 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:

LOL...Starshield special was a brand name of armor, there was nothing particularly "special" about it. In real world present day terms...its like one body armor maker using "kevlar" and another using "aramid fiber" while both are technically the same thing. Except the former is the trademarked name belonging to the Dupont company, and the other is the generic term for what kevlar is.

Horseman, on 24 April 2018 - 10:08 AM, said:

Read on... he expects Ferro-Fibrous to provide additional armor, like Hardened Armor does in tabletop (WTF?).
Also, he apparently wanted to play Solaris with an almost-stock Vindicator.
... yyyeahhh.

Just drop it, no sense in fueling this debate as it seems to be completely lost on him...

[Roodkapje]

Horseman, on 23 April 2018 - 10:37 PM, said:

Ah, there we go... Ferro-Fibrous armor does not increase your durability. It just reduces the tonnage your armor takes up.

I didn't know that... I feel silly now

Why is there 6% and 12% more protection mentioned in the description then in-game ?!

[Horseman]

Roodkapje, on 25 April 2018 - 12:41 PM, said:

Why is there 6% and 12% more protection mentioned in the description then in-game ?!

You get more points per ton from Ferro compared to Standard armor. But a point of Ferro is equal to a point of Standard in every way except weight.

[Throe]

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Edited by Throe, 08 November 2018 - 04:47 PM.

[darkwish]

I logged in game, but dont get free mech, what i do wrong?