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#1 BrunoSSace

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:09 PM

So for some reason I have been thinking a bit about this mech.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blitzkrieg
Its a medium ultra AC20 carrier that runs at 120km. Is there any mech that can copy this in the current game?

Your mission if chose to accept it, is link me a build.
1. With a High mounted AC20 or Ultra AC20.
2. Move quick, around 100 or more if possible.
3. Carry 4 tons or more of ammo.
5. It doesn't need back up weapons, but you can, if you make it fit.
4. Can be Clan or IS, would rather it be IS. But not a massive deal.

Just want to pilot a berserker, in game. Like to see if its possible without crit splitting. A Hunchback running at 120 with an AC20 sounds kinda fun.

#2 FupDup

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:16 PM

I'm trying to build it in Smurfys but so far no 50-ton medium can take both XL350 (lots of low caps) and UAC/20 at the same time due to no crit-splitting. The Uziel is the closest but its lower arm actuators mess it up.

#3 Seranov

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:32 PM

A Linebacker with stripped arms can fit a UAC20 and up to 6 1/2 tons of ammo, too. Nothing else, though, and you'd need Speed Tweak to get over 100kph.

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:38 PM

Actic wolf hero can do a clan ultra AC20 + 3.5T ammo, XL300 (120kph), and almost full armour. Not sure how high the ballistic points are though.

Stripping arms, and a little off the head and legs will get you 5T ammo.

Edited by SuperMCDad, 26 April 2018 - 04:41 PM.


#5 cougurt

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:40 PM

the closest i can come up with is the arctic wolf hero:
https://mwo.smurfy-n...b5a55565a51a943

you could also try the shadow cat:
https://mwo.smurfy-n...85842077daf69a0

no IS mechs that really fit the bill though.

#6 Spheroid

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:57 PM

Light engine Trebuchet-K with stripped arms could do it. Your insistence on a high mount is unreasonable. The advantages of an XL on something like an Enforcer-4P or Centurion-AH would more than offset. UAC-20 is a brawling weapon anyway.

Edited by Spheroid, 26 April 2018 - 05:00 PM.


#7 El Bandito

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 05:06 PM

View PostBrunoSSace, on 26 April 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

So for some reason I have been thinking a bit about this mech.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blitzkrieg
Its a medium ultra AC20 carrier that runs at 120km. Is there any mech that can copy this in the current game?

Your mission if chose to accept it, is link me a build.
1. With a High mounted AC20 or Ultra AC20.
2. Move quick, around 100 or more if possible.
3. Carry 4 tons or more of ammo.
5. It doesn't need back up weapons, but you can, if you make it fit.
4. Can be Clan or IS, would rather it be IS. But not a massive deal.

Just want to pilot a berserker, in game. Like to see if its possible without crit splitting. A Hunchback running at 120 with an AC20 sounds kinda fun.


My Adder already does that, carrying CUAC20 at 100 kph. ADR-D BIG STICK It is gonna be far trickier for IS mechs, cause their XL engine sucks with the 3 crit requirement.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 April 2018 - 05:10 PM.


#8 FupDup

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 05:08 PM

View PostSpheroid, on 26 April 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

Light engine Trebuchet-K with stripped arms could do it.

Too slow.

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 05:17 PM

View PostSpheroid, on 26 April 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

Light engine Trebuchet-K with stripped arms could do it. Your insistence on a high mount is unreasonable. The advantages of an XL on something like an Enforcer-4P or Centurion-AH would more than offset. UAC-20 is a brawling weapon anyway.

yeah, the enforcer 4P is actually a pretty good approximation if you can overlook the low arm mount:
https://mwo.smurfy-n...941fe5ae5268d1a

#10 Spheroid

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 05:17 PM

@FupDup: He said between 100-120 kph. 300-325 LFE with speed tweak would satisfy that.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:00 AM

https://mwo.smurfy-n...79a19ae14e4e424

Shadowhawk 2d2, with speed tweak should run about ~110. 5 tons of ammo, AC20, high mounted.
Maybe other shadowhawks with ballistic hardpoints are better quirked for that, but as a quick reference should give an idea what to do.

Edited by lazytopaz, 27 April 2018 - 01:02 AM.


#12 Old-dirty B

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:54 AM

View PostSuperMCDad, on 26 April 2018 - 04:38 PM, said:

Actic wolf hero can do a clan ultra AC20 + 3.5T ammo, XL300 (120kph), and almost full armour. Not sure how high the ballistic points are though.

Stripping arms, and a little off the head and legs will get you 5T ammo.


This, high hardpoints as well. Great option to zip around with a big cannon.

#13 MikeBend

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 04:36 AM

https://mwo.smurfy-n...c2b02e4be41eb62


113 after speed tweak Posted Image OP meta build.

Edit:

Oh, and then of course there is this:
https://mwo.smurfy-n...echlab#modified

Edited by MikeBend, 27 April 2018 - 04:39 AM.


#14 Elizander

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 06:36 AM

Your basic HBK-4G will go at 95 kph with Speed Tweak which is close enough to 100 for me. AC/20, 4.5 tons ammo, 2x ML

https://mwo.smurfy-n...de52b7e293bf8ec

#15 Magnus Santini

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 06:54 AM

View PostElizander, on 27 April 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

Your basic HBK-4G ...

If you run around with pugs it will feel like you are going over 100. Also your life expectancy will only need 3 tons because you will be in range of every other weapon in the game the whole time you are shooting.

#16 Escef

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:34 AM

YLW can do over 100 after tweak and carries a UAC20 just fine.

Any ballistic Shadowhawk could do it with a 320LFE (provided full speed tweak), 1xJet, 3 armor on each arm, rest of the armor maxed (endo & ferro). If you try it with a SHD I'd recommend the 5M for UAC jam chance reduction quirk.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:34 AM

I’m all for the ‘fastest big gun possible’ builds, but you start catching some diminishing returns beyond 100 KPH.
You can do 106 or so with an Urbie, but you’re essentially naked with 14 rounds. ENF-4P or the Wang at least let you use an XL.

#18 Ruccus

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:37 AM

With the stipulation of 'around 100 or more', you can get a Huginn Boomraven (the build will also fit in a RVN-4X) up to 99.5kph with the full speed tweak nodes.

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:02 AM

posted by mistake, pls del.

Edited by MikeBend, 05 September 2018 - 12:05 AM.


#20 Axys Rageborn

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Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:42 AM

You can do it in the Vulcan VL-2T but only 3 tonnes of ammo

https://mwo.smurfy-n...f7bd4b778f09ed7

And the TBT-7K will do it perfectly

https://mwo.smurfy-n...10cc9868b3e0230

Edited by Axys Rageborn, 05 September 2018 - 12:56 AM.






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