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[SmokedJag]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 30 April 2018 - 02:59 AM, said:

The fact that folks go to the forum to gloat about being able to kill a meta vindi in d7 shows that the vindi might be a little to powerfull for div 7 or 1v1 in general.

SnugglesTime also had this in his video where he points out the 1X as an inflection point you just don't beat without one. Slight exaggeration - I've yet to beat one with an Uziel but against the ones with comparable experience in the format it's been close enough to have been misplays/missed shots by me. I've learned to not hop in the que at odd hours...

But it should be moved out of what's meant to be the garbage/joke bracket. Maybe some Div 6 stuff relegated in its place.

Other chassis with god quirks are bumped up in division or have the weaker variants split off in the lower.

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B3R3ND, on 30 April 2018 - 01:17 AM, said:

I wonder if these kind of (specialist) anwsers to mainstream builds and strategies will actually encourage the mass to find something that works well against whatever comes out of the gates in solaris. I think with some time there will actually be a few meta builds with corresponding strategies for each division, sort of rock paper scissors in the end.

What do you think?

I hope so.

The whole "meta build" concept doesn't apply to 1v1 where you can face drastically different opponents. "Metamech" is/was supposed to be about the most broadly useful machine on a random map against teammates of random chassis and multiple weight classes.

Here, a crafty opponent who knows there's a glut of one chassis can pick something good at defeating them and ban the two ideal maps for said likely enemy.

[Lily from animove]

shame if something would happen to your meta anni too.

[Ted Wayz]

Felbombling, on 28 April 2018 - 06:13 AM, said:

Looking over the concept art again... /sigh What the hell happened to the Vindy's left hand? In game, it looks like it got stung by a bee or something. NOTHING like the concept art proportion-wise.

Did you buy it when it came out?

Then PGI says MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

[Felbombling]

Nope... I bought it on sale for C-Bills. My thinking... I don't drive around in third-person, so the only reminders I'll have about that goofy left hand will be during Mech selection. lol

[Evil Elmo]

LordNothing, on 27 April 2018 - 09:50 PM, said:

sold mine because i already had a fully mastered uziel of the same varient.

Sold mine because in 3 games I didn't manage to get even half of my usual average damage in mediums. It's trash.

[El Bandito]

Lily from animove, on 30 April 2018 - 04:28 AM, said:

shame if something would happen to your meta anni too.

Ooh, are you gonna do something about it? See you in Solaris.

[Monkey Lover]

I blame you El bandito. Tie #1.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 01 May 2018 - 01:14 PM.

[Knighthawk26]

Putting 2 LBX 10s on a Uziel means a smaller engine which makes you slower than the Vindi, so he can get in close and brawl. he just needs to ban the Arena and Boreal maps. The Uziel has less dps than the Vindi, even if you just compare 2 LBX 10s with the MRM 40 and factor in the 25% cooldown on the Vindi. When the Vindi gets in range of his lasers and mg's the dps is 1.5 times that of the Uziel. The Vindi has more armor, and the Uziel can't focus parts any better than the Vindi. The Vindi is better in every category. Yes, the free Uziel is good, but it isn't better than the Vindi. El Bandito is a very experienced pilot, so his skill likely makes up for the slight disadvantage the Uziel has against a Vindi.

I have had great success against the Uziels in my Vindi. And I am an average pilot, so Bandito could probably beat me in a Uziel, but against the guys at my level (about 1650) the Uziels do not worry me much.

[Ruccus]

Monkey Lover, on 01 May 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

I blame you El bandito. Tie #1.

After reading this thread I took another stroll in Solaris with my Blackjacks (one an AC2/SPL build, the other dual LB10Xes) and came 1 or 2 shots away from beating a Vindi meta build with my LB10X build, and it was my own damned fault I didn't win.

I stripped his torso and twisted and fired wide, then stopped myself when I realised I was really low on ammo. I plugged away with a single LB10X only when I was certain of a CT shot but was only able to get him down to yellow/orange internals on the CT. Had I not taken that wild shot after I stripped the MRM40 I likely would've cored him with my penultimate or last shot. He still had a laser and even though I didn't have any components showing I wasn't about to try to run away and torso twist for 7 minutes to get a draw, so I stopped, told him I was out of ammo, thanked him for a good match, and let him kill me.

Playing around and testing the build I figured out single heatsinks is enough to cool two LB10Xes, so now my build has ferro and an extra half-ton of ammo instead of light ferro.

[El Bandito]

Monkey Lover, on 01 May 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

I blame you El bandito. Tie #1.

Your shots are all over the place, mate. Focus on one section of the torso, and ignore the legs. Do not be afraid to get close against another Uziel to land the shots more accurately.

Ruccus, on 01 May 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

Playing around and testing the build I figured out single heatsinks is enough to cool two LB10Xes, so now my build has ferro and an extra half-ton of ammo instead of light ferro.

Good job noticing about the SHS.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2018 - 05:22 PM.

[Monkey Lover]

El Bandito, on 01 May 2018 - 05:19 PM, said:

Your shots are all over the place, mate. Focus on one section of the torso, and ignore the legs. Do not be afraid to get close against another Uziel to land the shots more accurately.

He got my leg so i had to use my mrm range running him down at 50 kph. IT got worse when he ran out of ammo and was looking for a tie. haha Normally these mechs pop easy.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 01 May 2018 - 07:06 PM.