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[Zibmo]

It's streaky as heck for me. I will have days where it seems teams are pretty even. Other streaks I win 7-8 and lose 1. Last weekend it seemed that hideaway was the only way to play and we were annihilated. If we got kills, it was 1-2. I hate the losing streaks. And it doesn't matter what you say, type or do. That LRM Atlas is going to hide 1500 meters away from the nearest action and watch his missiles explode in mid air. That Dire Wolf is going to try to peek and poke and kill two teammates while losing his arms. The lights are going to YOLO their invincible Jenners into the heavies hiding in the back. For 10-15 seconds.

Sigh.

[KodiakGW]

JRcam4643, on 01 May 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

If any one is interested in that let me know.

Interested, but wishing you good luck with that. A number of us have been complaining about the current PSR (which is really just an XP bar) based MM for a long while. Thanks to the leaderboards and Jarl’s, we have been putting numbers up to confirm what we thought was happening. But when we do, we get called an e-peen man child for using them to prove a theory that has absolutely nothing about e-peen comparison. Just showing that there are people being put in games that they are clearly not ready to handle, so that maybe their play experience might become better if fixed.

They are not listening to us. They will continue to listen to those who make long posts criticizing those posts, which has evidence, saying that the original crtitics are wrong because we don’t understand, and provide no evidence. This being done without providing any proof that they have sufficient knowledge, credentials, or training to pose any sort of criticism of those original posts (Courtier's Reply). Yet when they are criticized, and told to do the same research we have done, they fire back saying we are the ones guilty of Courtier's Reply.

So, good luck and send me Discord info. If I’m available I’ll join, but I’m pretty done with trying to fight this fight when facing hypocrisy like I mentioned above. All the while being made out to be the bad guy for trying to make things better for all.

And just adding this in there so they cannot say we are not still talking about it. 8v8 for solo QP only anyone?

[Khalcruth]

Who the heck cares what happens in quickplay? You want real games, you play faction.

[JRcam4643]

Khalcruth, on 02 May 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Who the heck cares what happens in quickplay? You want real games, you play faction.

But it's kinda boring. Most battles are just 2 teams sitting on either side of a gate waiting for the other team to try and bum rush through it. Some times you get a skirmish map but usually it seems you don't.

[BTGbullseye]

Samantha Rbnsn1990, on 01 May 2018 - 07:34 PM, said:

You act like this never happens or something.

Not at all... This was just an exceptionally horrible group, way more so than the usual horrible group. Felt like they hadn't even looked at the description of the game before going into a match.

Monkey Lover, on 01 May 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

Pug Q is for testing mechs. Group q is for playing to win

Group queue is for people that have a group of friends wanting to group up and coordinate... I don't have that.

Dogstar, on 01 May 2018 - 11:53 PM, said:

OP is reverse bragging by implying that this was the only game he's ever played where he lost

Not in the least. 1.0 W/L ratio overall, 1.26 so far this season according to Jarl's. I have no illusions as to my win/loss ratio.

sycocys, on 02 May 2018 - 01:34 AM, said:

How long do you think PGI has been testing their AI in at least QP for? To keep up the numbers and attempt to make something mildly passable for MW5.

I'd say they've been going a bit heavier in the past few weeks, but started a little over a month ago.

Asym, on 02 May 2018 - 06:26 AM, said:

I am surprised that the forum regulars haven't called you names and berated you on a personal level? Was that one kill a major forum contributor-player?

Why would they? It's not like I'm calling out anyone or telling people to "git gud".

AaronWolf, on 02 May 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

This is a daily occurrence for me. Its basically the norm. Either we be the ones stompin' or we be the ones gettin' stomped.

Usually because people split up and do their own dang-patootin' thing, AND NOT WORK TOGETHER LIKE THEY SHOULD.

Indeed it is a daily thing, this was just an exceptionally starchy match, with 1 that was at least close to my level of play, (not bragging, he might've been better than me, IDK) which is even rarer.

[Monkey Lover]

BTGbullseye, on 02 May 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

Group queue is for people that have a group of friends wanting to group up and coordinate... I don't have that.

You are correct people group up to coordinate but you not being able to do this isnt true.

All houses have team speak servers. You can join them and they will have a room for people to join into the match.
you kust jump on wait for the match to end say 'Myname is looking for an invite'

If you want to go to the next level you join a unit. Lots of them are looking for people.

[Kanil]

Monkey Lover, on 02 May 2018 - 09:14 PM, said:

You are correct people group up to coordinate but you not being able to do this isnt true.

All houses have team speak servers. You can join them and they will have a room for people to join into the match.
you kust jump on wait for the match to end say 'Myname is looking for an invite'

If you want to go to the next level you join a unit. Lots of them are looking for people.

Listening to random strangers on voip isn't really everyone's idea of fun.

[MrMadguy]

KodiakGW, on 02 May 2018 - 08:09 AM, said:

Interested, but wishing you good luck with that. A number of us have been complaining about the current PSR (which is really just an XP bar) based MM for a long while. Thanks to the leaderboards and Jarl’s, we have been putting numbers up to confirm what we thought was happening. But when we do, we get called an e-peen man child for using them to prove a theory that has absolutely nothing about e-peen comparison. Just showing that there are people being put in games that they are clearly not ready to handle, so that maybe their play experience might become better if fixed.

They are not listening to us. They will continue to listen to those who make long posts criticizing those posts, which has evidence, saying that the original crtitics are wrong because we don’t understand, and provide no evidence. This being done without providing any proof that they have sufficient knowledge, credentials, or training to pose any sort of criticism of those original posts (Courtier's Reply). Yet when they are criticized, and told to do the same research we have done, they fire back saying we are the ones guilty of Courtier's Reply.

So, good luck and send me Discord info. If I’m available I’ll join, but I’m pretty done with trying to fight this fight when facing hypocrisy like I mentioned above. All the while being made out to be the bad guy for trying to make things better for all.

And just adding this in there so they cannot say we are not still talking about it. 8v8 for solo QP only anyone?

Yeah. PSR says, that I'm Tier 2. But S7 leaderboard says, that my rating is 1300-1400 (hasn't stabilized yet, due to small number of matches), i.e. even below initial one, that should be equivalent of Tier 4, I guess. Top players have ratings around 4000-4500. This is, how wrong PSR is.

[Monkey Lover]

Kanil, on 02 May 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

Listening to random strangers on voip isn't really everyone's idea of fun.

Working as a team in a team based game for most people is.On the marik side most people i talk to i been playing with for years. If you want to be antisocial thats fine pug Q is good for this and now even 1v1. Just dont cry about people not working as a team lol

Edited by Monkey Lover, 03 May 2018 - 12:13 AM.

[Kanil]

Monkey Lover, on 02 May 2018 - 11:58 PM, said:

Working as a team in a team based game for most people is.

Which is evident when one compares the size of the group, comp, and especially faction play queues to solo queue.

[Grus]

Monkey Lover, on 01 May 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

Pug Q is for testing mechs. Group q is for playing to win

did you not see my "interesting numbers" post? I'm calling bull..

[KodiakGW]

MrMadguy, on 02 May 2018 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yeah. PSR says, that I'm Tier 2. But S7 leaderboard says, that my rating is 1300-1400 (hasn't stabilized yet, due to small number of matches), i.e. even below initial one, that should be equivalent of Tier 4, I guess. Top players have ratings around 4000-4500. This is, how wrong PSR is.

Hear your pain, my friend. Hopefully some day they will take a look at all the information available to them and figure out that there is a problem. In the meantime, rest well...and dream of large women. (Hopefully you get the movie reference)

But, I’m about done being made out to be the bad guy. Just recently had someone I believe use the word “blackmail” to describe what was the equivalent of me, the customer, telling a vendor what they needed to do to get more of my business, and the business of a number of other players I know. Waiting for them to reply to say that it was their intention, but pretty damn sure it was.

[Brain Cancer]

Khalcruth, on 02 May 2018 - 08:24 AM, said:

Who the heck cares what happens in quickplay? You want real games, you play faction.

Nobody's in faction. That should tell you "who the heck cares about faction"?

[BTGbullseye]

Brain Cancer, on 03 May 2018 - 07:26 PM, said:

Nobody's in faction. That should tell you "who the heck cares about faction"?

Which is unfortunate, as I rather like FW. I just don't like that it is almost always an IS stomp when I PUG.

[BTGbullseye]

Since I don't want to start a new thread, I'll just post this here...

Was just on Caustic Valley in Domination mode. (FNR-5B with similar loadout to the -5) Peeked a hill for a short while (just a couple seconds) only to have a KDK-3 with dual 10 + dual 5 UACs immediately start firing at my CT... Except that about 50% of his shots somehow landed on my rear armor while I was facetanking his fire. (it was at the very beginning of the engagement, so no I wasn't being flanked or having a light shoot me in the back)

Considering that his ping was around 120, and mine was about 50, how the f*** does this happen?

[Dragonporn]

BTGbullseye, on 07 May 2018 - 02:15 AM, said:

Since I don't want to start a new thread, I'll just post this here...

Was just on Caustic Valley in Domination mode. (FNR-5B with similar loadout to the -5) Peeked a hill for a short while (just a couple seconds) only to have a KDK-3 with dual 10 + dual 5 UACs immediately start firing at my CT... Except that about 50% of his shots somehow landed on my rear armor while I was facetanking his fire. (it was at the very beginning of the engagement, so no I wasn't being flanked or having a light shoot me in the back)

Considering that his ping was around 120, and mine was about 50, how the f*** does this happen?

I'm thinking buggy hitboxes on FNR. I get very weird damage distribution on my CTF sometimes still, PGI might wanna look into it...

[Brain Cancer]

FNR has a low top, which means shots that hit top towards the back can and do end up hitting back armor instead of front. I ended up putting a full spread of ATMs into one from up top on Oasis, and the guy ended up with dented back and front armor from the spread.

[BTGbullseye]

Brain Cancer, on 07 May 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

FNR has a low top, which means shots that hit top towards the back can and do end up hitting back armor instead of front. I ended up putting a full spread of ATMs into one from up top on Oasis, and the guy ended up with dented back and front armor from the spread.

I considered that, then immediately threw it out. He wasn't hitting my roof, he was firing from exactly the same level as me, at my center mass.

[Brain Cancer]

BTGbullseye, on 07 May 2018 - 07:01 PM, said:

I considered that, then immediately threw it out. He wasn't hitting my roof, he was firing from exactly the same level as me, at my center mass.

KDK ballistic mounts are taller than the Fafnir is. Stand next to one some time and go third-person, you'll see what I mean.

[BTGbullseye]

It was on the caldera, I was standing slightly higher than him, and he was barely peeking the hill.

Even so, you shouldn't be getting rear armor damage at that percentage when being shot from the front.