Patch Notes - 1.4.169 - 15-May-2018
#321
Posted 12 May 2018 - 03:55 PM
#322
Posted 12 May 2018 - 03:58 PM
#323
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:20 PM
shopsmart, on 12 May 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:
Koniving, on 12 May 2018 - 03:40 PM, said:
Currently Clans can do 78 damage with 6 ER ML and 2 Heavy LL without ghost heat or shutting down. All this at only 14 tons.
Closest thing IS has without triggering ghost heat is 60 with 6 ER ML and 3 LPL all at 27 tons. Not to mention nearly twice the range for the Clans.
Post nerf it'd be 59 damage Clan to 60 damage IS without hitting ghost heat at 16 tons to 27 tons and even better range.
Or risking a measily 3.7 extra ghost heat on top of a minor bit for an extra ER ML the Clans could net 66 damage for what would effectively be 60% heat on a 15 DHS build with no skill tree. Meanwhile the IS would get hit with (and currently do) 7.06 extra heat just to bring that IS 60 damage to 65, post patch... so the Clans STILL win the laser vomit war post nerf. But it would've been a lot more fair.
How about now? Do the nerfs make sense now? Puts things in perspective from a balance stand point.
#325
#326
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:45 PM
McHoshi, on 12 May 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:
- Almost all equipment/upgrades (XLs, Endo, Ferro, DHS, ECM, AP, TCs, NARC)
- Gauss
- LBX ACs
- UAC2s
However;
- Missiles are decently balanced
- MGs, UAC5s & UAC10s are decently balanced
- Lasers are *maybe* decently balanced?
On the other hand;
- IS has better ACs
- IS has better UAC20s
#327
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:47 PM
McHoshi, on 12 May 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:
You got the wrong persective - tell me in which other way clans got any advantages?
The most obvious and potent being the Clan XL and 2 slot dubs. That's not counting all the other things.
Those numbers don't lie. From a subjective point of view. It brings both laser vomits into balance. As explained you can fire a single med laser over the cap and not be too harshly punished, thereby still edging out the IS vomit.
#328
Posted 12 May 2018 - 04:49 PM
Russ Bullock
In the end this is not a sign that I think the nerfs were a bad idea and we shouldn’t have them
Russ Bullock
At the least I feel these level of changes usually come with more fore warning, perhaps a PTS and a feedback loop.
Russ Bullock
So let’s call them tabled for now but we may open that process again so on some or all of these adjustments
Russ Bullock
Thank you to everyone who plays the game and posted. To the five or 6 of you that thought it was ok and fair you have Zero concepts of how the game works or is played.
GHOST HEAT NEVER HAS BEEN THE ANSWER AND NEVER WILL BE
Edited by LordLosh, 12 May 2018 - 04:52 PM.
#329
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:09 PM
Edited by Bonfor, 12 May 2018 - 05:10 PM.
#330
Posted 12 May 2018 - 05:33 PM
Bonfor, on 12 May 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:
that sounds like a fascinating idea. so big mechs get big tasks and lil mechs get lil tasks.... thats so revolutionary it bursts my brain.... xD
how nobody else ever came up with this...
seriously, i like this!
#331
Posted 12 May 2018 - 06:05 PM
Give Clan their tech advantage FFS, this is a real joke.
reducing ANH and Fafnir armour?!!
the game dosnt need to be weapon balanced FFS!
I really dont need IS weapons to be eqivalent to Clan weapons or dmg.
Cant you balance the game with numbers? 10 Clan (superior tech) vs 12 IS (vintage)
All of this makes Baby Jesus very sad
#332
Posted 12 May 2018 - 06:09 PM
LordLosh, on 12 May 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:
Russ Bullock
In the end this is not a sign that I think the nerfs were a bad idea and we shouldn’t have them
Russ Bullock
At the least I feel these level of changes usually come with more fore warning, perhaps a PTS and a feedback loop.
Russ Bullock
So let’s call them tabled for now but we may open that process again so on some or all of these adjustments
Russ Bullock
Thank you to everyone who plays the game and posted. To the five or 6 of you that thought it was ok and fair you have Zero concepts of how the game works or is played.
GHOST HEAT NEVER HAS BEEN THE ANSWER AND NEVER WILL BE
Ghost heat is a pretty good concept for controlling laser vomit, it puts a consequence in for laser boating and forces players to play a hit and fade style or a coordinated target style if they want to vomit lasers effectively. Without it clan mechs would simply put energy pods on and vomit every large laser they could across any open map. So it has assisted in controlling a certain play style. I don't think they should increase the ghost heat penalties either but to say it hasn't been "the answer" isn't 100% accurate.
#333
Posted 12 May 2018 - 07:09 PM
#334
Posted 12 May 2018 - 07:10 PM
#335
Posted 12 May 2018 - 07:26 PM
Dee Eight, on 11 May 2018 - 07:37 PM, said:
Just a correction: 1X is the HGR variant, but no one runs dual HGR on the 2A. It's all Dakka there. 5UAC5 or 2UAC5 2UAC10 or 6UAC2 etc. (and 5LBX10 for solaris)
2A was easily the best variant. These nerfs won't affect it too much.
#337
Posted 12 May 2018 - 11:58 PM
And again i laughed so hard I pooped my pants.
No idea what Russ is taking, but it´s not the right dosis.
#338
Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:25 AM
Wishmast3r, on 12 May 2018 - 11:58 PM, said:
And again i laughed so hard I pooped my pants.
No idea what Russ is taking, but it´s not the right dosis.
Wow this is truely hilarious. The gravity of that statement is on Trump tweet levels.
Being good does not mean one knows balance...
No, quite the opposite Mr. Bullock. Being good means you have to sit down, analyse sh|t and self-reflect.
Without analysis and self-reflection you would have never become good in the focking first place.
And both actions are the basis to learn the imbalances and thus also knoow how to balance it.
The best proof is the following thread:
https://mwomercs.com...balance-update/
Tarogato and many others proposed many good changes to significantly improve balance.
But I bet Mr. Bullock you dont even know that this thread exists.
#339
Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:30 AM
Antares102, on 13 May 2018 - 12:25 AM, said:
https://mwomercs.com...balance-update/
Tarogato and many others proposed many good changes to significantly improve balance.
But I bet Mr. Bullock you dont even know that this thread exists.
Meanwhile on Twitter ...
#340
Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:46 AM
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