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[Signal27]

Koniving, on 19 May 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

While trying to find files to mod for better AI behaviors... I discovered the faction settings. There is either a splinter faction or a "you betrayed the Arano restoration" faction, called Arano Restoration Betrayal. They are contracts to work for the Arano Restoration, where you're offered money and to "come back to us", and "like you've done for us in the past."

So whether this shows up later or not I'm not sure, but it seems like you can at some point betray them...and still be hired as money can still sway your "mercenary heart".

Thanks for sharing that. My best guess is that at some point in BattleTech's development, you could probably rack up negative faction points for the Arano Restoration just like how you can still do so right now for any other faction. Probably because it might have been possible to take contracts against the Arano Restoration from other factions, not just the Directorate, to get those negative faction points. Then at some point in development they decided to simply scrap that by eliminating anybody offering any contracts against the Arano Restoration, and it also wouldn't surprise me if that's also why the Restoration doesn't offer any contracts against any other faction except local pirates and the Directorate.

[Koniving]

Signal27, on 19 May 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

Thanks for sharing that. My best guess is that at some point in BattleTech's development, you could probably rack up negative faction points for the Arano Restoration just like how you can still do so right now for any other faction. Probably because it might have been possible to take contracts against the Arano Restoration from other factions, not just the Directorate, to get those negative faction points. Then at some point in development they decided to simply scrap that by eliminating anybody offering any contracts against the Arano Restoration, and it also wouldn't surprise me if that's also why the Restoration doesn't offer any contracts against any other faction except local pirates and the Directorate.

The other possibility is after completing the game, such things become possible. If you consider that contracts could be offered against them after the main course or a potential falling out. Its a thought anyway, after all you should be able to play forever and they plan on expanding the game/story, so it is possible that it is preemptive for the future.

Who knows?

There actually seems to be four factions dedicated specifically to Arano, actually.

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Signal27, on 17 May 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

I find it hard to believe that absolutely nobody else in the Inner Sphere or even the periphery is producing porn. Especially given how easily accessible it is today.

Maybe others produce it, but they don't really export it, because it's pretty standard across the worlds.

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The other possibility is after completing the game, such things become possible. If you consider that contracts could be offered against them after the main course or a potential falling out. Its a thought anyway, after all you should be able to play forever and they plan on expanding the game/story, so it is possible that it is preemptive for the future.

Who knows?

There actually seems to be four factions dedicated specifically to Arano, actually.

I think there was originally a plan for you being able to fail the main story arc in some manner, but they seemed to have abandoned that. So I suspect it might be a remnant of story development they didn't implement (for now at least).

[Koniving]

Think that might be over simplifying what the Magistracy does. The Magistracy of Canopus is known for a liberal, hedonistic society with traveling pleasure circuses (yes, including "cat girls" and numerous other things that you might also say are popular in anime.) It seems to be a bit more of a 'free' society in those terms, that so long as adults are consenting anything goes.

So it goes far beyond adult entertainment, to the point where depictions of nudity and the like are in many facets of art including building designs. Most of these are deemed as serious displays as opposed to simple titillation.

Huh. Interesting. So where it is seriously lacking however is in education. The local and planetary governments within the Magistracy cashstrapped and struggling financially until it began a turnaround toward 3050 with help from the Taurian Concordant and the Capellan Confederation.. This lead to a significant recovery with a new Royal University of Canopus distributing well educated teachers to all nearby planets in 3062, and an engineering university provided by the Capellan Confederation in 3066.

Despite its progressive views on immigration (especially from those facing oppression) with a similar open view about religion, it has an interesting viewpoint that women are significantly more qualified than men for positions of authority for political, economic, and military affairs. Sons take the last name of the father and daughters take the last name of the mother.

Peculiar. If I were to make an assumption (beyond that men were originally barred from this), I might have the suggestion that this general presumption may be influenced in part by the hedonistic nature of their worlds.

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Another place that would have such interesting things would be the Marian Hegemony. Its known for doing so many things "the Roman way," including the ownership of slaves and large gatherings for such activities en masse.

Then again, considering that Battletech has Dinosaurs and Dragons, I guess you could say why wouldn't it have these details too?

Having learned more about Canopus, where the hell are they getting all the money that they are paying me and the Arano Restoration?

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Koniving, on 21 May 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

Having learned more about Canopus, where the hell are they getting all the money that they are paying me and the Arano Restoration?

The Magistry of Canopus might be a small time, poor state by Inner Sphere standards, but they're still much bigger and wealthier than the Aurigan Coalition. Funding the Restoration is pocket change to them.

Either that, or they're digging up the funding for the Restoration from the same place everyone and their brother is getting "rare" Heavy and Assault Mechs.

[Signal27]

evilauthor, on 21 May 2018 - 04:25 PM, said:

The Magistry of Canopus might be a small time, poor state by Inner Sphere standards, but they're still much bigger and wealthier than the Aurigan Coalition. Funding the Restoration is pocket change to them.

This makes sense to me. It makes me think of some of the countries in the Caribbean - such as Jamaica, Puerto Rico, and Bahamas. Individually and even collectively, they are far from a world power in any sense and even considered poor. However, they have a strong tourism industry and perhaps a few other things that rake in the cash for certain sectors - so there is at least a middle and even an upper class. I would imagine the Magistry would be similar - especially given all the emphasis on their focus with the entertainment industry in the lore.

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Either that, or they're digging up the funding for the Restoration from the same place everyone and their brother is getting "rare" Heavy and Assault Mechs.

This also makes sense to me. Sometimes a game designer decides that lore must take a back seat to gameplay.

Edited by Signal27, 21 May 2018 - 05:54 PM.

[Koniving]

No one questioned dinosaurs or dragons in Battletech?

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Koniving, on 23 May 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

No one questioned dinosaurs or dragons in Battletech?

We've all seen the picture of the aftermath of the date between that dino and a Bushwacker Kon....

[Koniving]

Bah. But what about the dragon with srm launchers?

Mechs vs dragon mounted infantry!

Edited by Koniving, 24 May 2018 - 05:32 AM.

[Leone]

Koniving, on 23 May 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

No one questioned dinosaurs or dragons in Battletech?

Of course not, I've been playing for decades. I've run those games.

~Leone.

[evilauthor]

Now that I think about it, it'd help sell the setting as Mad Max style post-apocalyptic if some of the "mechs" you routinely encountered in the game weren't mechs at all, but megafauna wearing mech grade armor and weapons, and battles are fought over ranches raising and breeding such animals.