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[Zaydin]

Trying to decide what IS Assault package to get when the sale starts tonight and not sure which is the better option.

[Villainy]

As much as I love the Nightstar, if you're buying one for effectiveness, get the Anni.
Not only is it the current heavy hitter 100 tonner ruining everyone's days, the Nightstar isn't an easy mech to do well with. It can really drag down the fun when you're 11 games into your new mech and you've done poorly because the mech itself is underwhelming.

That being said, I totally own and love both. Also, depends on what you're building them for.

[MechaBattler]

Well the Anni being as good as it is. Will probably see more nerfs. The Nightstar on the other hand is not really on PGI's radar. If anything people keep asking for it to get buffs.

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

Save your moneyz.

[Stridercal]

The Nightstar is a deathtrap with those hitboxes.

The Anni is a pig that only works 1v1.

Skip 'em both.

[Bombast]

If you have to buy one, buy the Annihilator. The Nightstar is completely subpar, while the Annihilator is basically king of it's niche. Highly effective in Solaris, Faction Play, and Quick Play (Though QP can be rough, with how inconsistent the playerbase is, and how slow the Annihilator is).

That being said, it's not necessary to buy the package. You really only need one Annihilator to do everything you need to do (The hero is not worth it and the energy Annihilator is... not great).

[Angel of Annihilation]

There isn't even a question of which to buy. Annihilator all the way.

Seriously, the Nightstar is so bad in my opinion that I have completely stripped all three of the ones I got with the Standard Pack when it was first released and I am honestly on the verge of selling them all off. The Nightstar is one of the very few Meck Packs I totally regret buying.

The Annihilator on the other hand is hands down the best 100 ton Assault mech in the game.

[MischiefSC]

Is this trolling?

You need to get really trollish to make an Anni that isn't 1,000x superior to the best possible Nightstar build. The Anni actually makes 2 Nightstars, in its toilet, every morning before breakfast.

[Monkey Lover]

They're going to keep nerfing the anni until its no longer #1 in 1v1. I would stay away from it with real $$.

[Gas Guzzler]

The Annihilator is way better than the Nightstar from what I remember.

[Tordin]

Viktor Drake, on 16 May 2018 - 02:04 PM, said:

There isn't even a question of which to buy. Annihilator all the way.

Seriously, the Nightstar is so bad in my opinion that I have completely stripped all three of the ones I got with the Standard Pack when it was first released and I am honestly on the verge of selling them all off. The Nightstar is one of the very few Meck Packs I totally regret buying.

The Annihilator on the other hand is hands down the best 100 ton Assault mech in the game.

Imagine all 100 toners have THAT amount of armor and structure buffs.... make Assaults great again, and not only IS/ 100 tonners but ALL assaults.
What grinds me gears is the idiotic left torso hardpoints on the nightstars, they should be up, up, up in line with those right ones!

Edited by Tordin, 16 May 2018 - 02:41 PM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Annihilator > all

Get used to going 48 kph and you're unstoppable. Not that Nightstar goes significantly faster anyway, topping out at only 10kph faster with maximum engine which isn't really worth using.

[Y E O N N E]

This is not even a contest, Annihilator for sure. There is nothing the Nightstar does that can't be done better on the Annihilator.

[Troa Barton]

I would say the Annie but since they just nerfed it (again) you shouldn't reward them.
PGI still doesn't understand the concept of buffing under performing mechs. Instead they take the lazy way out and nerf the outlier that's actually performing properly.
#GivetheDDCarmorquirks #Assaultsshouldbepowerful

[Angel of Annihilation]

Tordin, on 16 May 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

Imagine all 100 toners have THAT amount of armor and structure buffs.... make Assaults great again, and not only IS/ 100 tonners but ALL assaults.
What grinds me gears is the idiotic left torso hardpoints on the nightstars, they should be up, up, up in line with those right ones!

There are tons of issues with the Nightstar. My biggest issue is with the convergence of the arm mounted hard points. The community b*tched and moaned about the arms not being cockpit height so PGI stuck them straight out to the sides in the most awkward manner imaginable so half the time I find myself either shooting one arms worth of weapons into the side of a hill or the back of a friendly mech that isn't even viewable through my cockpit. I also agree about the weird torso placements as well.

Honestly the Nightstar should have been an exceptional IS Assault mech, I mean it has that same Marauder torso shape that should have meant excellent hitboxes but somehow PGI even mess up the hitboxes as well.

In any case, the Nightstar is kind of an abomination that at best might kinda, sorta be just below average if it is lucky.

Edit: Oh and yeah, I have to admit, the Annihilator is one of the few Assault Mechs that feel like an Assault mech. I understand why PGI did what they did for balance reasons but honestly, unless your in another Assault mech, there should be at least a little element of fear and caution involved when you come face to face with one and right now the Anny is the only Assault mech that generates that reaction in me.

Edited by Viktor Drake, 16 May 2018 - 08:14 PM.

[LordBraxton]

They may be good in Solaris, but in an actual match? Annihilators just get chewed up because they are inevitably out of position with that horrible speed.

The night star is so terrible I never even see it in game.

Honestly these days it's Mad Cat II, or Mad IIC, or a Clan Heavy. If you already own all of these you are buying hipster mechs instead of powerful choices.

[Abisha]

The nightstar is so wide it feels like you fire from a other mech.
I not joking.

[Thorn Hallis]

I love my Nightstars, but I wouldn't recommend buying one.

[Vellron2005]

Zaydin, on 16 May 2018 - 01:23 PM, said:

Trying to decide what IS Assault package to get when the sale starts tonight and not sure which is the better option.

Buy the Nightstar hero and make a LRM boat

Annis are great for Solaris, but limited in use for QP..

[Stonefalcon]

Our Lord and Savior is the best. He will be pleased to see a new disciple and will offer you his blessing.