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[Vellron2005]

Hey guys..

I don't know about you, but It irks me greatly when I'm in a two-person group, we both have the same unit tags, and then the matchmaker puts us in two different lances..

It bothers me even more when somebody takes group lead and drags one of us into different lances even though we have the same unit tags and were in the same lance originally.

I usually play with my significant other, and we play as a team on most occasions, so being able to see her on the minimap and seeing what grid location she is on is important to me.

And then, there are some people who are rude enough to switch us around, split us up into different lances, and be rude about it even after being asked politely to put us back together into the same lance.

Am I the only one who is bothered by this? Who thinks splitting people with the same unit tags up is rude?

I get it if people are in a group but you don't know it cose' they don't share unit tags.

but if they do.. don't split them up?

Edited by Vellron2005, 19 March 2018 - 06:07 AM.

[Damnedtroll]

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[Pocket_Aces]

Take company command to stop this from happening.

[Vellron2005]

Damnedtroll, on 19 March 2018 - 05:03 AM, said:

Maybe someone have an interest on your significant other and want to take her out of your hands ?

Not to brag, but everybody wanna take Her out of my hands, She's awesome..

She doesn't like for us to be split up much either though, so I'm not worried..

Pocket_Aces, on 19 March 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

Take company command to stop this from happening.

I do take command when the MM doesn't place us together to correct it, but since I don't wanna actually drop call, and there might be people that do, I don't hog it..

And then again, i've had instances when people take command, split us up, and refuse to let go of command so I can remedy it.. it's very rude..

Does anyone else have issues with this type of thing?

Edited by Vellron2005, 19 March 2018 - 06:15 AM.

[PocketYoda]

Pocket_Aces, on 19 March 2018 - 05:16 AM, said:

Take company command to stop this from happening.

I was going to suggest that, unless its already taken before you load in.

[Garran Tana]

A bit OOT but.. Oh man.. My significant other does OK in QP but group play is a nightmare to play and only discourages from the game (me from the GQ, her from the game entirely). It's cool you two can play in group at all. For me MWO is a game when I can't just invite a friend to have fun. I can take them for a stomp parade. It's the Europe time zone.. GQ is made of a premade or two that stomp everything and you probably will fight with a random pugs against those premade groups every match.

Edited by Garran Tana, 19 March 2018 - 06:30 AM.

[yrrot]

There are mixes of group sizes that make it so at least one group has to be split between two lances. For example, groups of 4, 3, 3, and 2 players fills a team, but either the two person group or a three person group ends up getting split.

[Sjorpha]

Vellron2005, on 19 March 2018 - 06:12 AM, said:

I do take command when the MM doesn't place us together to correct it, but since I don't wanna actually drop call, and there might be people that do, I don't hog it..

And when you correct it, which necessarily involves moving someone else, how do you make sure you're not doing the same rude thing to other friends in groups who doesn't share a unit tag?

Point being the people moving you are probably just trying to "correct" their own lance situation same as you.

[VonBruinwald]

I like to juggle the lances:

Normally I juggle them so they're all IS/Clan and group the same mechs together if possible. And Urbies in the Assault lance :-)

If I see two players with the same tag I WILL split them if I'm in the solo queue (which is 90% of the time). If you're sync dropping you deserve to be split up and if you claim you're not there's still a tendancy to back each other up and neglect other teammates.

I'm also the guy who juggles the lances when "lance in formation" rewards are about so all the dead/snipers are isolated together so everyone else can score more.

[WarHippy]

Vellron2005, on 19 March 2018 - 06:12 AM, said:

I do take command when the MM doesn't place us together to correct it, but since I don't wanna actually drop call, and there might be people that do, I don't hog it.. And then again, i've had instances when people take command, split us up, and refuse to let go of command so I can remedy it.. it's very rude.. Does anyone else have issues with this type of thing?

Unless everyone is dropping together in full 12 man nobody should be messing with the lances. You are doing to other groups what you are upset about when you move yourselves into a lance after the MM split you.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

VonBruinwald, on 19 March 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

I'm also the guy who juggles the lances when "lance in formation" rewards are about so all the dead/snipers are isolated together so everyone else can score more.

Only live lancemates matter for that. So if a lance has 3 live if you move the dead away you are making it harder.




I think it's surprising that even when you ask, that some people won't change back. It does seem a bit rude.

Edited by Teer Kerensky, 19 March 2018 - 10:40 AM.

[DAYLEET]

Thats why i created a guild. The game kept separating me and my friend and i thought being in the same guild would keep us together. nope.

[VonBruinwald]

Teer Kerensky, on 19 March 2018 - 10:40 AM, said:

Only live lancemates matter for that. So if a lance has 3 live if you move the dead away you are making it harder.

Are you sure about that? I've found it quite easy to score 40+ LIF by switching the dead out for live teammates.

[Kubernetes]

VonBruinwald, on 19 March 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

I like to juggle the lances:

Normally I juggle them so they're all IS/Clan and group the same mechs together if possible. And Urbies in the Assault lance :-)

If I see two players with the same tag I WILL split them if I'm in the solo queue (which is 90% of the time). If you're sync dropping you deserve to be split up and if you claim you're not there's still a tendancy to back each other up and neglect other teammates.

Why don't you stop this nonsense and leave people be?

[VonBruinwald]

Kubernetes, on 19 March 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

Why don't you stop this nonsense and leave people be?

What part is nonsense? Putting Urbies in the assault lance or splitting up sync-droppers in the solo queue?

[Sjorpha]

VonBruinwald, on 19 March 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

What part is nonsense? Putting Urbies in the assault lance or splitting up sync-droppers in the solo queue?

Both, unless you talk to your team and agree on the changes.

[VonBruinwald]

Sjorpha, on 19 March 2018 - 03:39 PM, said:

Both, unless you talk to your team and agree on the changes.

90% of players who take notice appreciate the humour of Urbies in the Assault lance.

The sync-droppers can go drop in group queue if it upsets them that badly... oh wait... they should be doing that anyway.

Edited by VonBruinwald, 19 March 2018 - 03:44 PM.

[Asym]

No they won't, they can't farm easily in GQ.....

QP is not for teams. Take command and rearrange as you wish. It's a shame we keep driving people away.

Geeze. (sigh)

[Vellron2005]

Sjorpha, on 19 March 2018 - 06:35 AM, said:

And when you correct it, which necessarily involves moving someone else, how do you make sure you're not doing the same rude thing to other friends in groups who doesn't share a unit tag?

Point being the people moving you are probably just trying to "correct" their own lance situation same as you.

I make sure never to break up same unit tags, as for groups without unit tags, I have no way of knowing who's grouped with who, so I move them around first. If there are large groups with same unit tags, some of them will not make a full lance, so for them it doesn't really matter anyway, cose' they are usually on TS..

There have been instances when I split up un-tagged groups, and then they ask me to put them back, or take command and put themselves back. In those cases I'm usually respectful and let it be.

Then again when I ask politely to be put back, people are usually rude and piss me off.. so I'm forced to report them, or worse..

I've had such bad experiences that me and her both had simply disconnected because we refused to play with such bad people, reports be damned. It's incredible to me how petty and evil people can get over such a stupid thing. Some will split you up on purpose and be mean about it, just to spite you.. just to ruin your gaming experience.. I guess they don't get laid much..

DAYLEET, on 19 March 2018 - 11:17 AM, said:

Thats why i created a guild. The game kept separating me and my friend and i thought being in the same guild would keep us together. nope.

Yeah.. this exact reason was why I created my own unit ALRM, and I've noticed that it has improved somewhat..

people are less likely to split us up when we are together, and the MM is also slightly less likely to split us up.. but it still happens..

Garran Tana, on 19 March 2018 - 06:29 AM, said:

A bit OOT but.. Oh man.. My significant other does OK in QP but group play is a nightmare to play and only discourages from the game (me from the GQ, her from the game entirely). It's cool you two can play in group at all. For me MWO is a game when I can't just invite a friend to have fun. I can take them for a stomp parade. It's the Europe time zone.. GQ is made of a premade or two that stomp everything and you probably will fight with a random pugs against those premade groups every match.

We had a phase like that.. it was very hard for her in the beginning, but she had a better start at the game than most.. She watched me play and studied what was what for a year before she got into a cockpit of her own..

And also, our "GuluGulu" helped a bit - we have this cute little ritual where we rub our mech's noses at the beginning of the match for good luck.. it's kinda funny I know, but it helped her feel better knowing I was close by, ready to assist and focus fire.. (This is kinda one of the main reasons why we wanna drop in the same lance)

She actually caught up with me in Tier recently.. now we're in the same tier, so it's a little easier..

Edited by Vellron2005, 21 March 2018 - 12:59 AM.

[Sid bender]

I would think they are splitting you up to organize lances by mech size / role . I dought it is ment to be rude