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[Racerxintegra2k]

IMO Its past time the Tier rankings were reset. To many average players are in Tier 1 (Myself included). Is the community behind a reset ?

[El Bandito]

Yes, I'm behind a reset. Soft one (two tier drop), so I won't be grouped with tons of T5s every match. And make it happen every three months.

[Spare Parts Bin]

El Bandito, on 06 June 2018 - 04:22 AM, said:

Yes, I'm behind a reset. Soft one (two tier drop), so I won't be grouped with tons of T5s every match. And make it happen every three months.

Tier does not convey tactical understanding. I am Tier 5 but respond well to play calling.

[ocular tb]

Not opposed to it.

[Haipyng]

I'm not opposed to it. It would have a certain ouch factor for new players that should be considered. Throwing them into the same bucket with hard veteran players is going to sour their experience for sure. I like El Bandito's idea of a two tier drop better.

[El Bandito]

Spare Parts Bin, on 06 June 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

Tier does not convey tactical understanding. I am Tier 5 but respond well to play calling.

But it does convey overall competence.

[Haipyng]

El Bandito, on 06 June 2018 - 04:48 AM, said:

But it does convey overall competence.

Or how much mediocre players have grinded in game.

[Besh]

Yeah, Tier reset would be good . As well as, make it somewhat harder to get out of T5 and 4, so that not everyone who plays 40ish Games and does well in a few pretty quickly starts getting matched against T1 . Idk how that could be done though XD .

[Ssamout]

Spare Parts Bin, on 06 June 2018 - 04:26 AM, said:

Tier does not convey tactical understanding. I am Tier 5 but respond well to play calling.

Tiers dont matter in FP anyways. I doubt you grind qp every day and stay tier5 while responding to play calling? Or if you do, plz stop responding.


And plz, reset everything.

Edited by Ssamout, 06 June 2018 - 04:57 AM.

[Korz]

Personally IMHO They should just get rid of the skill based MM and tier setup and just put everyone in the same pool. Newer players can learn from better players. And better players can step up and lead the groups.

[El Bandito]

Besh, on 06 June 2018 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, Tier reset would be good . As well as, make it somewhat harder to get out of T5 and 4, so that not everyone who plays 40ish Games and does well in a few pretty quickly starts getting matched against T1 . Idk how that could be done though XD .

It can be done as long as tier resets happen often. Remember, longer you play this game, more matches you have to do to get out of a tier. Which is why I advocated a soft tier reset, cause with my 10000+ matches in QP, it will take me a long time to get out of the cesspool that is T5.

[CygnusX7]

Meh. <grumpy cat>

[Besh]

El Bandito, on 06 June 2018 - 05:01 AM, said:

It can be done as long as tier resets happen often. Remember, longer you play this game, more matches you have to do to get out of a tier. Which is why I advocated a soft tier reset, cause with my 10000+ matches in QP, it will take me a long time to get out of the cesspool that is T5.

I did not know...meaning I have no clue how Tier is calculated .

Edited by Besh, 06 June 2018 - 06:12 AM.

[Magnus Santini]

Besh, on 06 June 2018 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yeah, Tier reset would be good . As well as, make it somewhat harder to get out of T5 and 4, so that not everyone who plays 40ish Games and does well in a few pretty quickly starts getting matched against T1 . Idk how that could be done though XD .

Well if they reset the tiers and put tier 1 and 2 guys in their games, that should lock down the tier 4 and 5 players from being able to do well and advance. Or decide they are hopeless after being insta-killed every game, and quit. Mission accomplished?

[Dogstar]

As I've stated before tier <> skill, it's much more a measure of matches played/experience and wealth accrued. As such it does function well enough to match similarly experienced/wealthy players against each other.

Resetting the tiers without changing the system and the matchmaker will do nothing for the game. Skilled players will rapidly shoot up in tiers and soon enough we'll be back to exactly where we were before.

If you want change then you should campaign for a skill(stats)-based matchmaking system not resetting the current system.

Do note however that such a system will have both the worst features of the Solaris divisions and the tier based system as well as divide players into too many buckets and kill off the game.

If you want a better game, get more players playing.

[N0MAD]

El Bandito, on 06 June 2018 - 04:22 AM, said:

Yes, I'm behind a reset. Soft one (two tier drop), so I won't be grouped with tons of T5s every match. And make it happen every three months.

What diff does it make, the small population means that everyone is grouped into same games anyways, after a reset you would be playing same people as you play now.

[Dragonporn]

If there would be no changes to PSR calculation system, tier reset is utterly pointless, it will be just same exp bar you have to accumulate, and every potato will end up in T1, just as usual.

[RickySpanish]

Why? There'd be a brief moment of rage among newer players as they are obliterated by anyone with a bank balance and a couple of meta 'Mechs, followed by exactly the same situation as now. If you're seriously advocating for this you are either naive, or want to shoot some new players for a bit. The game just doesn't have enough returning players imo, we are probably stuck with this situation forever for QP.

[Elizander]

Well if we do the 2 tier drop, I guess I could wait a few months for the better players to move up in tiers then play and get my ace of spades in tier 4.

[Besh]

Magnus Santini, on 06 June 2018 - 05:20 AM, said:

Well if they reset the tiers and put tier 1 and 2 guys in their games, that should lock down the tier 4 and 5 players from being able to do well and advance. Or decide they are hopeless after being insta-killed every game, and quit. Mission accomplished?

You could not have misunderstood harder XD . As it is now, it is pretty easy do go from T5 to T3 within say 40ish Matches...for anyone who ever played a Shooter Game I'D say . But that does not at all mean that all those people are ready to BE in T3, from then on having to face T1, T2 in their Matches . Soooo.....what I meant is make it harder so that not EVERYONE gets washed up in no time . The regular T1, T2 people will advance as quick as they deserve, while more mediocre ppl. stay in the safer Havens of 5, 4 for a bit longer .

At least thats the Idea....as I said, I have no clue how to accomplish that though .

Edited by Besh, 06 June 2018 - 06:15 AM.