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[Oldbob10025]

The Blood God, on 26 June 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

the game just isn't fun to play because of it and everything it brings

Its not Rocket Science. I bring my 3 AMS nova-S with 12k AMS rounds and everyone is better for it. Its a team game and if your having problems with LRM's then bring 1-2 AMS systems on your mech. If everyone only had 1 AMS with 1/2 ton of ammo then this wont be a problem. Its in the game for a reason and just about every mech can bring one.

Problem is people are too greedy to bring one as they can squeeze one more Heatsink or Computer system in the mech and not work as a team and supply some cover for your team with AMS. Its not their fault but its the attitude in general in gaming over time that does this.

Manage your heat better, get AMS, problem solved. LRM's are the most ineffective weapon system in the game but so many pilots cant even get behind cover or position themselves behind something or go with the flow of how to defeat LRM's.

[Mr Steinbrenner]

Its probably been mentioned already but all my assault and heavy skill trees include min 40% radar derp as a standard now. Usually at the cost of firepower tree or maybe double cool shot or airstrike.

[Dogstar]

Personally I go 100% derp on _all*_ my mechs, its the only way to be sure.



* Unless it's a dedicated AMS boat, derp+AMS boating is kinda silly

Edited by Dogstar, 11 July 2018 - 06:07 AM.

[Mystere]

Stop being greedy statwhores and bring your own AMS instead of hoping someone else brings one for you -- or that PGI removes LRMs from the game. Sheesh!.

[Vellron2005]

Personally, I play alot of LRM boats, and it's funny to me that I actually very rarely die from LRMs.. maybe once in 25 deaths is by LRMs for me..

Yet, It's probably the other way around on the kills I do.. 1 in 25 are non-LRM kills..

I don't use AMS unless I'm playing a dedicated AMS boat like Nova or Kitfox.. Go figure.

[Michelle Branch]

You're probably too far in the back to get targeted by LRMs.

[OmniFail]

DrtyDshSoap, on 12 July 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:

You're probably too far in the back to get targeted by LRMs.

You underestimate how good the lights are right now. If your a lurm boat hiding in back( or anybody), the lights will find you and then their assault lurm boat team mates will lurm you. It will feel like one tiny mech with a couple of small lasers, a ridiculous amount of machine guns, and 60 tubes is tearing you up while moving at a ungodly speed.

Edited by OmniFail, 12 July 2018 - 01:09 AM.

[Nema Nabojiv]

OmniFail, on 12 July 2018 - 01:05 AM, said:

You underestimate how good the lights are right now. If your a lurm boat hiding in back, the lights will find you and then their team mates will lurm you. Together they will fry you.

You underestimate how bad most light pilots are. Peaking in trading in front of assaults? Hell yeah! Going for isolated target? Ugh, no, too dangerous.

[OmniFail]

Nema Nabojiv, on 12 July 2018 - 01:10 AM, said:

You underestimate how bad most light pilots are. Peaking in trading in front of assaults? Hell yeah! Going for isolated target? Ugh, no, too dangerous.

No No Dear God No......

The lights are tearing the assaults up right now.

It appears to be fun and easy.

Unless your the assault. Then it goes like this. Nascar begins. You wave bye bye to you team mates. Then the enemy lights come. Then the lurms. Then the focused direct fire from the other team.

Edited by OmniFail, 12 July 2018 - 01:17 AM.

[Tetatae Squawkins]

Damn those Light mech bullies.

Leave Britney Assaults alone!

[LowSubmarino]

The Blood God, on 26 June 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

the game just isn't fun to play because of it and everything it brings

If you die to lurms all the time then why do you never use terrain and cover?

If you run across open fields you dead.

Cover is op.

[poltergoost]

OmniFail, on 12 July 2018 - 01:05 AM, said:

If your a lurm boat hiding in back( or anybody), the lights will find you and then their assault lurm boat team mates will lurm you. It will feel like one tiny mech with a couple of small lasers, a ridiculous amount of machine guns, and 60 tubes is tearing you up while moving at a ungodly speed.

Working. As. Intended.

Solution - do not hide alone at the back.

[dario03]

Mystere, on 11 July 2018 - 06:40 AM, said:

Stop being greedy statwhores and bring your own AMS instead of hoping someone else brings one for you -- or that PGI removes LRMs from the game. Sheesh!.

Wait, I thought AMS boosted your matchscore if it shoots down a bunch of missiles...

[Cloves]

dario03, on 12 July 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Wait, I thought AMS boosted your matchscore if it shoots down a bunch of missiles...

It does, stat whoring is usually about the kills first. I would prefer a higher cbill payout for AMS, as it stands you get pushed up in tiers (bad) and the actual defensive value might help your chances of winning (good, but not immediately gratifying enough for most players.). If they properly incentivized AMS, they could better balance LRMs.

[Kubernetes]

Nema Nabojiv, on 12 July 2018 - 01:10 AM, said:

You underestimate how bad most light pilots are. Peaking in trading in front of assaults? Hell yeah! Going for isolated target? Ugh, no, too dangerous.

It's like most never even hit the R button to check out target info. Streak boat? Dual HGR? Whatever, run in spraying MGs everywhere!

[LowSubmarino]

Never bring any form of nööbish ams.

What kind of man brings ams. For what.

Lurms are a pathetic weak weapon that are utterly weak.

Die to lrms super rarely and then only because I chose to make a last stand and take one or two or three cored mechs with me and choose to run onto open grounds and know that i will get missiled to death.

Apart from taht its just too easy to avoid missiles. If you need ams then you dont play well. Ams is waste of tonnage. Bring more dhs and more firepower or bigger engine instead of worthless ams.

[DeskJockey]

LRM's are a problem on 2, maybe 3 maps where they can make your life miserable (Polar Highlands, Alpine Peaks, and *maybe* Caustic Valley). They are a large handicap on 2-3 maps (Solaris City, HPG Manifold, and maybe Crimson Straight).

All the others are ok for LRM's - no specific advantage. I don't really see LRM's as overpowered until I see "Map: Polar Highlands" selected. Then I hope for lots of AMS, or that all the LRM's are on my team. I do curse LRM's every time I get hit by 500 of them on PH. Most of the other maps I think "Supernova LRM boat? What a waste", 'cause I know I'll have 110 Points of protective armor *behind* me, trying to LRM some light.

Edited by DeskJockey, 12 July 2018 - 02:47 PM.

[Nema Nabojiv]

DeskJockey, on 12 July 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

They are a large handicap on 2-3 maps (Solaris City, HPG Manifold, and maybe Crimson Straight).

Solaris, Crimson and one resp on Mining Collective. Though that particular resp is unbalanced by itself.

[Prototelis]

There has been a really weird lrm-meta evolving in GQ since the buffs.

It's cool, I like to see all the weapon systems in play, but I still have mixed feelings about it myself.

I'd like to see the IDF mechanic nuked becuase it still encourages "hide in a trench locks plz" gameplay that is ultimately almost always detrimental to your team even if you do manage to win. But I think they should buff LOS fire, the closer you are the better it works.

[Tesunie]

Prototelis, on 12 July 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

...the closer you are the better it works.

Thing is, this is already true. The closer your are to the minimum range, the better your LRMs tend to work.

Now if we could just get more people to realize this...