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[Stridercal]

Luminis, on 15 July 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

People hate on a lock-on, indirect fire weapon in an FPS?

Say it ain't so!

Except that this isn't an FPS in any conventional sense. You want that, go back to CoD.

[Prototelis]

Or maybe if you don't want an FPS go back to playing a board game?

The COD comments are hilarious.

[Tetatae Squawkins]

If I don't have the option of checking the levels of my onboard toilet at the beginning of each match and pressing a button to dump the contents this game is not detailed enough.

[Agent of Change]

Tetatae Squawkins, on 16 July 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

If I don't have the option of checking the levels of my onboard toilet at the beginning of each match and pressing a button to dump the contents this game is not detailed enough.

Personally I have been more than a little bothered that my pilot is clearly wearing a pilots jumpsuit and not the standard Vest and booty shorts of a proper mechwarrior...

[Mystere]

eminus, on 15 July 2018 - 02:05 AM, said:

LRMs! one mans trump is another mans putin

How dare you insult comrade Putin? You're comparing a chess player to a traitorous imbecile.

[Mystere]

Luminis, on 15 July 2018 - 08:30 AM, said:

Also, the assumption that people dislike LRMs because they deem them OP is pretty much unfounded.

But, it is a reasonable assumption. A cursory look at the forums show that there are indeed many people who think LRMs are OP and subsequently cry on the forums.

[James Argent]

Agent of Change, on 16 July 2018 - 03:12 PM, said:

Personally I have been more than a little bothered that my pilot is clearly wearing a pilots jumpsuit and not the standard Vest and booty shorts of a proper mechwarrior...

Cooling suits are not LosTech in this game.

[Kubernetes]

Mystere, on 16 July 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

But, it is a reasonable assumption. A cursory look at the forums show that there are indeed many people who think LRMs are OP and subsequently cry on the forums.

At the most basic level, people dislike being killed by LRMs because they feel it's unfair within the context of a game: guy can hit you but you can't hit back. This is maddening for noobs and low skill players because they have a tough time trying to counter and probably suffer lots and lots of frustrating "I never even saw the enemy" deaths.

On the other hand, vets have numerous reasons to dislike LRMs, but certainly the greatest indignation arises when a skilled pilot gets killed by a one-button glue-eater. It's like you've trained and trained to become deadly with every weapon and then some joker tosses a rock at you knocks you out.

My personal issue with them is that they serve as a crutch for newer and lesser-skilled players. They reward people with big damage numbers and big match scores every few games, and that gives them the impression that they're really being effective. 'I had that one match with 1000dmg and 5 kills-- LRMs are great!'--never mind that the guy is solidly <1.0 kdr and <1.0 wlr.

It's telling when so many LRM-enthusiasts say "I do way better with LRMs than direct-fire!" Well no kidding! How are you going to get good at direct-fire if you only play with LRMs? Unless you are a prodigy at this game, it takes practice to git gud. Too many people won't git gud because LRMs are easy, low risk, and " good enough."

[Luminis]

Prototelis, on 16 July 2018 - 02:10 PM, said:

Or maybe if you don't want an FPS go back to playing a board game?

The COD comments are hilarious.

This community, man.

Explained myself in detail, both regarding MWO's failing at being anything but an FPS game and the design issues with the LRMs and in comes the guy with the attention span of a gold fish and goes "go play COD hurr durr".

You know, at this point, I'd probably be better off doing that than watch PGI turn MWO into more of a shitfest every other patch at the behest of the lowest common denominator. There's a reason why many (most?) good players left.

Mystere, on 16 July 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

But, it is a reasonable assumption. A cursory look at the forums show that there are indeed many people who think LRMs are OP and subsequently cry on the forums.

A significant chunk of the forum's population is dreadfully bad at the game. Doesn't mean that's the case for everyone. It's an easy cop-out, just like the "hurr durr go play COD" thing

[Tetatae Squawkins]

Septic System, Nominal

[Novakaine]

I'm normally leading a push in my Lurm boats.
Which is why I tend to get ganked first.
However sometimes ya get real lucky.
Sadly I notice most of you so called brawlers.
Never even bother to shoot at the guy with lurms.
How odd.

[Burke IV]

Kubernetes, on 16 July 2018 - 04:29 PM, said:

At the most basic level, people dislike being killed by LRMs because they feel it's unfair within the context of a game: guy can hit you but you can't hit back. This is maddening for noobs and low skill players because they have a tough time trying to counter

Noobs in this game are educated to hate LRMs by the community itself. They get killed and instead of thinking about how and why they get butt hurt cause its acceptable to blame the other guy when you lose to LRMs. Not a good start is it?

Im still annoyed they ruined my build BTW even all this time later jus thougth i would say

[Kubernetes]

Burke IV, on 16 July 2018 - 05:37 PM, said:

Noobs in this game are educated to hate LRMs by the community itself. They get killed and instead of thinking about how and why they get butt hurt cause its acceptable to blame the other guy when you lose to LRMs. Not a good start is it?

Im still annoyed they ruined my build BTW even all this time later jus thougth i would say

Their belief that LRMs are OP is not derived from the community at large. Most people who have played the game a long time think they're weak and inefficient.

[Vellron2005]

Kubernetes, on 16 July 2018 - 05:54 PM, said:

Their belief that LRMs are OP is not derived from the community at large. Most people who have played the game a long time think they're weak and inefficient.

Personally, I find LRMs a useful, good weapon. But definitely not OP. Probably more balanced than any other weapon in the game, even with the counters.

And I just hope they don't get nerfed, cose' it's hard enough to use them..

[MW Waldorf Statler]

thats the Folks thats plays Battlefield without Vehicles like CS while shes loves his own Killcount ...or stand of Without Vehicle Servers as Sniper and plays spawnkilling...thats the moment who im me wishing a Artillery strike or a Tank..Most LRM Players useless tonnage for the Team ...standing a easy kills mile from team and fires LRMs 1000m in cover near by the Target "please give me Locks"...LRMs is the best and effective as Support Weapon in a Range from 300 to 500m with the Team not as Lone Turret.

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 18 July 2018 - 02:40 AM.

[Wil McCullough]

Vellron2005, on 16 July 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

Personally, I find LRMs a useful, good weapon. But definitely not OP. Probably more balanced than any other weapon in the game, even with the counters.

And I just hope they don't get nerfed, cose' it's hard enough to use them..

Color me confused.

You've been declaring lurms a good weapon since forever. But you're cool with lurm buffs. If lurms were good weapons like you say they were, shouldn't you be AGAINST lurm buffs? Since they would make good weapons even better? Or if they were good weapons, shouldn't they be nerfed exactly so they're harder to use?

What's your agenda here cos you don't make sense at all

[Kroete]

Wil McCullough, on 18 July 2018 - 03:27 AM, said:

Color me confused.

You've been declaring lurms a good weapon since forever. But you're cool with lurm buffs. If lurms were good weapons like you say they were, shouldn't you be AGAINST lurm buffs? Since they would make good weapons even better? Or if they were good weapons, shouldn't they be nerfed exactly so they're harder to use?

What's your agenda here cos you don't make sense at all

Minimal heat buff for is lrms (that was need to make then as effective as clan lrms),
but a nerf to clan lrms (less heat for more spread= same heat but more time and ammo to get the same result).

In the end, together with the other buffs/nerfs, it shows clearly that pgi want massspamming.

Edited by Kroete, 18 July 2018 - 03:46 AM.

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

I don't hate lurms, I just dislike the lurm users and this is why:

- If biggest part of your team are lurmers you mostly end up in 1 map coordinate for an half hour long. (boring barf fest)

- Pugs are already horrible to do drop calling with but lurm users in general tend to be worse then just your average pug.

- congratulations the enemy are no potatoes and whoop our asses because we don't have a lot of non-lurming mechs to deal with pushers!

- Sure brag all you want about your 2500 damage output in a match while the other folk went for that side torso, that one leg or that center torso while you literately splat it on all components.

- Or the salty lurm user hiding in the back getting eaten by light mechs blaming everyone else for not protecting him while not following the rest of the group.

[thievingmagpi]

Most people don't dislike lrms, most people dislike the de-skillening of the game and the increasing movement towards Borewarrior Online clickfest that pgi has chosen, and the associated bads like to defend.

Edited by thievingmagpi, 18 July 2018 - 04:48 AM.

[Cazador88]

Alexandra Hekmatyar, on 18 July 2018 - 04:34 AM, said:

I don't hate lurms, I just dislike the lurm users and this is why:

- If biggest part of your team are lurmers you mostly end up in 1 map coordinate for an half hour long. (boring barf fest)

- Pugs are already horrible to do drop calling with but lurm users in general tend to be worse then just your average pug.

- congratulations the enemy are no potatoes and whoop our asses because we don't have a lot of non-lurming mechs to deal with pushers!

- Sure brag all you want about your 2500 damage output in a match while the other folk went for that side torso, that one leg or that center torso while you literately splat it on all components.

- Or the salty lurm user hiding in the back getting eaten by light mechs blaming everyone else for not protecting him while not following the rest of the group.

Hehhe those are the typical guys present in about every multiplayer game. Know them from BF and a few others. Camping in some far away spot on the map with a sniper all the while complaining that they lost the match because everyone else is a noob and no one went for the objective. I just like to call them the epeen ratio growers. I don't have a problem with lurms and i don't have any lurmboat builds but if im going to use them ill be sure to compensate them with some close to medium range weapons for self defence/push options. Its really irritating when the last guy is a lurmboat in domination or almost any mode and could easily win us the match if atleast brought some lasers with him but most of the time they just stand there like if the stick up their asses has grown some roots behind them.