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#1 Mech Ranger

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:10 PM

what arcticwolf got r :

light mech's speed~ ( 120+km/h)

light mech's size ( i dont know why this 40ton mech is just small as jenner 2c or fs9 , not make sense at all )

medium mech's amour ( it's totally enough considering this tinny buddy can run with over 120+km/h speed. beside, it is clan xl engine)

heavies mech 's fire power

acceptable shape ( no deadly problem such as small angle, or big ct... , except it's kinda easy to lost the weapons of arms, it's all good)

if have to say, the only disadvantage is it cant be equiped some jets~



which means, stromcrow or jenner 2c dont have existent value anymore when this mech comes out

by the way , stormcrow was so imba that PGI had to change the limit weight of scouting faction battle from 55ton to 50ton , otherwise it's just slaughter for IS

now Arctic wolf make both of them just looks like trash~

Edited by Mech Ranger, 20 July 2018 - 08:12 PM.


#2 Naglinator

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:16 PM

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

#3 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:25 PM

Must be why they be in div 1 and 2 owning it up eh? hur hur

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 20 July 2018 - 08:25 PM.


#4 El Bandito

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:45 PM

IS has Assassin, and that mech is arguably better than Arctic Wolf.

#5 Snowbluff

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:48 PM

I don't know about you, but I don't think the arctic wolf is heavy enough to make use of its humanoid shape. The arms are so week and noodly and full of weapons you can't really benefit too much from shielding with them. They also pop off when someone looks at them funny. :P

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 08:53 PM

View PostSnowbluff, on 20 July 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

I don't know about you, but I don't think the arctic wolf is heavy enough to make use of its humanoid shape. The arms are so week and noodly and full of weapons you can't really benefit too much from shielding with them. They also pop off when someone looks at them funny. Posted Image


Not to mention how easy it is to accidentally leg an arctic wolf.

#7 Mech Ranger

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:59 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 20 July 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

IS has Assassin, and that mech is arguably better than Arctic Wolf.


1 , Size is important problem, remember the story of blackknight? now it's unsolvable trash,
especially for light mech, the smaller u r , the harder to hit u .

the one problem of Assassin have too big size for medium . comparing with arctic wolf, it's like yaoming vs kobe :D

2, the all "firepower" i was talking about is melee building
the firepower of assasin is much weaker than arctic wolf have , it's just weak as light if u wanna maintain high speed
so why dont pick real light~,
wanna lase? pick fs9~,
also wanna ecm? ach then~
wanna srm? jenner2c good to go~

but the firepower of arcticwolf is 8srm4 ( despite of those joke building such as lrm)
hardly to find any alternative choice ~

in fact , i got 442 average damage in 80+ games and 2.47k/d (yes, i know some pro can do better )
but for me , it's the best statistical of all melee buidling light and medium mech i ever played
besides i'm not really good at this kind of fast melee mech on operation level~

3, yes, it's easy to lost weapons of arm, i feel the same way. but, it's because its arm can totally cover it's torso~
so here is the question, which part u wanna lost if u have to~ :D
besides, the weapons of arcticwolf are average
every part got 2 srm4, it wont like mlx, u lost arm, means u lost everything~


Edited by Mech Ranger, 20 July 2018 - 10:09 PM.


#8 Monkey Lover

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:35 PM

Question i have is why do all the other 40 ton mechs suck so bad?

#9 El Bandito

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:57 PM

View PostMech Ranger, on 20 July 2018 - 09:59 PM, said:

1 , Size is important problem, remember the story of blackknight? now it's unsolvable trash,
especially for light mech, the smaller u r , the harder to hit u .

the one problem of Assassin have too big size for medium . comparing with arctic wolf, it's like yaoming vs kobe Posted Image


Assassin is not that big compared to Arctic Wolf. Sure it is slightly taller, but for humanoid mech width is what matters--having slim torsi, coupled with durability quirks, as well as JJs, makes the Assassin chassis actually tougher than Arctic Wolf in combat.

You should drop in FP more before complaining about Arctic Wolves.

Edited by El Bandito, 20 July 2018 - 11:04 PM.


#10 Y E O N N E

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:59 PM

Are we serious?

#11 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:03 PM

View PostYeonne Greene, on 20 July 2018 - 10:59 PM, said:

Are we serious?


Must be why we are seeing acw all over the place now. Too imba. Please nerf.

:)

#12 Battlemaster56

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:21 PM

Sooner or later someone had to complain about the Arctic Wolf 1, IDK how it's op to you but the ACW is extremely easy to pick apart and I know this personally despite it's nice speed and stuff it's just to wide when it comes to the torso and it just so easy to pick a part and shoot it.

Maybe you should drop in a few games to really get the feel, but I take a Assassin over it because I can twist damage like a pro while doing the same speed and damage with JJ's.

#13 RickySpanish

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:08 AM

Would rather not see nerfs every time a particularly potent play style / 'Mech combo is discovered. Arctic Wolf is menacing when you don't see it coming, so keep your eyes peeled and call out gank style builds to your team. If you see an Arctic Wolf and mark him using command wheel, then call out their callsign on comms, he is going to pop out expecting to see your back and get met by a one lance alpha strike.

#14 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:21 AM

Actually just got wrecked by an acw in div 1.

Karmas a *****.

#15 Weeny Machine

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:38 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 20 July 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Question i have is why do all the other 40 ton mechs suck so bad?


Assassins suck? Really?

#16 Mech Ranger

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 12:50 AM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 20 July 2018 - 11:03 PM, said:

Must be why we are seeing acw all over the place now. Too imba. Please nerf. :)


dude, if u do have some reasonable point like other people , welcome to say it~
if not , cut this meanless sarcasm ******** plz

yes i know there r some pro who have different comprehend about game with regular players
but i dont believe u do~
because i saw u in the game , and i still can check ur [color="#333333"]record[/color] on the leaderboard in the game, which is not pro at all~

#17 Ghogiel

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:03 AM

It's effectively tied for 1st place as the strongest med brawler in the game according to PGI.

PGI can just look at their metrics and know, understand, comprehend and balance in the appropriete way, as they are want to do as we have seen in their history of flawless balancing up today

#18 RickySpanish

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:06 AM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 21 July 2018 - 12:21 AM, said:

Actually just got wrecked by an acw in div 1.

Karmas a *****.


You driving an Annihilator? I had been meaning to get an ACW but at the time I didn't have the gxp to skill it up.

Edited by RickySpanish, 21 July 2018 - 01:07 AM.


#19 lazorbeamz

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 01:46 AM

Assassin is a good mech and it is no worse then an ACW. But ACW is better oriented towards large alpha strikes, ASN is oriented towards brawling and circling behind your opponent hitting him from dead angles.

However ASN will never be able to do nearly as well as ACW in div1 and div2. Reason being because the better strategies revolve around large alphas and many assaults will simply stand in the corner. If you want any chance against those cornered assaults you need a large alpha and then some luck.

For QP i think asn21 is better.

Edited by lazorbeamz, 21 July 2018 - 01:48 AM.


#20 Jonathan8883

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 04:28 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 20 July 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Question i have is why do all the other 40 ton mechs suck so bad?

Because people forget to drive the ECM Cicada? It's one of my best Mechs.
My ACW is fun, but more fragile. It rarely survives to the end of the match, while my Cicada is often one of the last 3.





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