57 replies to this topic

[JediPanther]

I don't see it until some one does it in team chat over a win. That's about the only good thing of having such a pos video card that crashes the game when trying to change options then requires a full reinstall of the game. Most the time I did ignore it in all chat due to idiots with 0-12 or 1-11 or 2-11. if the enemy team can't even take out one lance with all the high clan alphas in the 60-90s or more it was hardly a good game and a pretty easy and dull win. The hard fought matches are rare.

[Grus]

JediPanther, on 26 July 2018 - 07:42 AM, said:

. if the enemy team can't even take out one lance with all the high clan alphas in the 60-90s or more it was hardly a good game and a pretty easy and dull win. The hard fought matches are rare.

Right because the 150+ IS alpha's arnt a problem.

[JediPanther]

Grus, on 26 July 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

Right because the 150+ IS alpha's arnt a problem.

And what mech and build is that? So it can alpha that 150 damage and not instantly die to heat or be shut down in front of the rest of the 11 other enemy mechs? Do tell. My 76 alpha catapult needs an upgrade. does it eat cool shots like beer shots in beer pong? Even better show me a video on youtube of you using such a mech. I bet you got ace of spades and creeping death with it too in the same match.

[SFC174]

I typically only GG if it was a close, fun match. Most matches in SoloQ don't meet that criteria. If the other team tried to put up a good fight, but just got rolled, I'll type "Thanks for the match". Even that could be misconstrued, but generally its less offensive.

[Agent of Change]

I'll be honest, I turned off "All" Chat as soon as it was an option before my hiatus and the very first thing I did when i reinstalled MWO was turn off "All" Chat.

Even in the case of a genuinely good game the ALL chat is in my experience usually just a source of visual spam, nonsense, or salt. So I guess I woudl say that In MWO at least, I never GG the enemy because silence is the price I pay for an element of teh online experience that drives me nuts.

That said I'll GG my own team verbally or in chat in any game I feel we played well as a team given the circumstances of that match regardless of the score.

[Rick T Dangerous]

Rules for gg:

1.: If the score is not close, ie. 8 - 12 or better, it was no gg.

2: The winning team shall wait until the loosing team starts gging.

3. If the winning team wants to show respect for the loosing team after a stomp (or even a roflmaostomp), they shall salut (ie. 07, o7, O7, <o, <O, <0, /°u°, /°°, or anything like that). They may alternatively thank the others for playing. Or they may remind the stompees that PGI is to blame, that's when name dropping may occur.

[Novakaine]

GGWP to the losing team is definitely an insult to the losing team.
Just plain bad manners don't do it.

[Kubernetes]

If gg upsets you after you got stomped, you're getting angry at the wrong person.

[Ghogiel]

I usually only gg when someone else has said gg and then someone got mad that gg was said.. so I just gg on top when someone is buttmad about it to mine salt. Otherwise it's not really something I pay attention to.

Edited by Ghogiel, 26 July 2018 - 09:37 AM.

[Prototelis]

If the score isn't close... well it's just an average game.

Thats the nature of YOLO, math, and focused fire. Thats always going to be a component of this game because it doesn't have respawns.

[KodiakGW]

Five or more people on one side with less that 150 match score? Not GG, but “Another fine MM experience” (meaning MM based on current PSR system), and about 90% of the matches I see.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Flyby215, on 25 July 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Through force of habit, I gg every game, whether or not I personally or others felt it to be so.

The habit follows me through other games, having started when I used to play chess competitively (involved a handshake too).

Are people really offended by a gg at the end of a match, even if it was pretty one-sided? What is the threshold for taking offense? 5-12? 4-12? 3-12?

Some of the most hard fought matches still end 12-0 ime.

That being said, I will typically offer a GG at 12-4. Anything less and if it was a great game, hard fought in spite of the final score, I will toss in a comment with the GG so folks know I'm not being a disingenuous toolbag.

Novakaine, on 26 July 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

GGWP to the losing team is definitely an insult to the losing team.
Just plain bad manners don't do it.

False.

That kind of absolutism is akin to sayings its offensive to shake hands after a RL match of some kind. Showing respect doesn't need to be based on the score differential.

[KoalaBrownie]

If it's 12-0 should probably say ez, not that I would since I don't even know how to all chat

[Flyby215]

Thanks for the responses. Wholeheartedly agree that 'gg ez' and the like is unnecessary. I've been seeing more complaints than usual lately (just an observation, I could be wrong), and was wondering if anyone is actually getting really soured or offended by 'gg' alone or if it's part of the generic, *pgi fix mm plz k thx* commentary. Do players generally recognize 'gg' as good etiquette, or am I really out of touch with gaming norms nowadays?

[Grus]

JediPanther, on 26 July 2018 - 07:57 AM, said:

And what mech and build is that? So it can alpha that 150 damage and not instantly die to heat or be shut down in front of the rest of the 11 other enemy mechs? Do tell. My 76 alpha catapult needs an upgrade. does it eat cool shots like beer shots in beer pong? Even better show me a video on youtube of you using such a mech. I bet you got ace of spades and creeping death with it too in the same match.

No i hot those with a 24 alpha Deathknell.

Ill have to link them when i get home (at work on brake) but if i remember its the anh, cyclop, and i think the atlas too <-- ill dubble check that one. That can do those high alphas.

[CycKath]

11-12 or 12-11 is gg threshold, me getting 4+ kills is Blake be praised threshold.

[VonBruinwald]

I refer to my previous answer.

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f you're saying GoodGame you're acknowledging you had enjoyed the game and it can be said regardless of the outcome, even if it's a 48-4 pug stomp. If you didn't you should at least say ThanksForTheMatch.


That being said there is an etiquette to GGing.

If you won and you're the first to comment on the match:
TFTM - saying GG is basically saying "I had a good time beating you" and disregards the opponents feelings about the match be they positive or negative. TFTM is neutral.

If you lost and you're the first to comment on the match:
Feel free to say GG - Even though you lost you can still say if you enjoyed the match. If you didn't enjoy it, at least TFTM or acknowledge their win, it shows sportsmanship.

If you won and you're the second to comment on the match:
If they say GG feel free to GG back, if not TFTM is appropriate. If your opponent hasn't acknowledged enjoying the match it's just rude to admit you enjoyed their failure.

If you lost and you're the second to comment on the match:
It's your choice, if you enjoyed the game you can GG, if you didn't TFTM is appropriate.


If your opponent is a snow flake who likes to rage and whine:
Feel free to tell them to GitGud.

If you're a snowflake who doesn't care about your opponents feelings:
Feel free to tell them you GotGonorrhea.

[Tetatae Squawkins]

Grus, on 26 July 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

Right because the 150+ IS alpha's arnt a problem.

No not really. Because the builds are mostly junk and the damage is spread.

[Wil McCullough]

Novakaine, on 26 July 2018 - 09:25 AM, said:

GGWP to the losing team is definitely an insult to the losing team.
Just plain bad manners don't do it.

"Gg" is not a commentary on how the game went. "Gg" is nothing more than shorthand that acknowledges the opponents' effort and the end of the match. You're reading too much into it. Unless the guy says "ggez" or something similar like "ggclose" when it was a one sided stomp, there' nothing to be mad about.

In games like dota, NOT saying "gg" at the end of the match is considered extremely rude. It's often mocked and called "rage quitting". Even in games like csgo, it's practically customary to say "gh" (good half) when teams switch sides and "gg" when the match ends. Score/performance doesn't come into it.

You see the same behavior in real life neighborhood basketball games in the form of a verbal "good game" and a handshake at the end of the match whatever the score is. Choosing not to do that is very bad form and shows disrespect. You don't say it back because you think the game was a stomping, expect to get fouled hard the next time you guys meet again on the court.

[Horseman]

To me, GG isn't about score but about the level of effort made by both sides. Doesn't matter who won.

If I feel my side was completely outplayed, instead of GG I might give a WP as a sort of grudging respect.

Edited by Horseman, 27 July 2018 - 07:30 AM.