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#621 Radkres

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:03 PM

Not sure anyone would like this Idea but Make Mercenaries unfactioned and used as fillers to the missing side for ghost drops and other empty que matches? o.O

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Posted 12 August 2018 - 02:17 PM

Another thought since unit cap won't work.
but there is a cap that may give the affect some are seeking

Group cap

can only group 4 pilots, this means there is a chance there is not a full 12 from one unit. but still possible.
Sure a unit can have 20+ players, and in that case have 5 groups queuing, to get in a 12 man lobby.so their odds are in their favor to mount a full 12 man.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 12:10 AM

View PostRadkres, on 12 August 2018 - 02:03 PM, said:

Not sure anyone would like this Idea but Make Mercenaries unfactioned and used as fillers to the missing side for ghost drops and other empty que matches? o.O


This would be a good idea, it would stop pop inbalance and prevent group dodging to some extent or faction stacking. The downside is that you would need to have both IS and Clan mechs in your stable (I know a lot of the members of my merc unit only have IS) and you would definitely need more than 1 minute to sort your deck out if the population killing was done during matchmaking. In fact it might even be possible to accidentally try to drop with the wrong faction tech. Then again that might be interesting from a RP point as the mercs could easily by IS based and being paid to work for clans or vise versa. In this case you would probably need 2 or 3 minutes at the start of the match to organise tactics and builds, probably with built in voice comms in the lobby.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:49 AM

Our big need is more players.

I'd buy a stupid mech pack or three if the money went towards an ad run during the SuperBowl.

Most people find this game by accident.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:15 AM

View PostLikeUntoBuddha, on 13 August 2018 - 02:49 AM, said:

Our big need is more players.

I'd buy a stupid mech pack or three if the money went towards an ad run during the SuperBowl.

Most people find this game by accident.


Got tons of players with the current event I would wager.

They just won't stay cause it is probably neither fun nor rewarding for most of them and they are only doing it for the MC.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:17 AM

View PostSixpack, on 13 August 2018 - 03:15 AM, said:


Got tons of players with the current event I would wager.

They just won't stay cause it is probably neither fun nor rewarding for most of them and they are only doing it for the MC.


Well I have a feeling the answer, or a part of an answer, to getting new players (new to FP) and keeping them is "hidden" in the last part of the last sentence.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:27 AM

View PostAngm4r, on 12 August 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:


Miss you T!


Hey Angmar.

May no longer be a member but I do remember what you guys taught me and have a good deal of respect for the work that goes into training program you all have designed and implemented not only for yourselves as a Unit but for any pilot willing to fight under the Davion and HHoD banner.

o7

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 04:32 AM

View PostXaat Xuun, on 12 August 2018 - 02:17 PM, said:

Another thought since unit cap won't work.
but there is a cap that may give the affect some are seeking

Group cap

can only group 4 pilots, this means there is a chance there is not a full 12 from one unit. but still possible.
Sure a unit can have 20+ players, and in that case have 5 groups queuing, to get in a 12 man lobby.so their odds are in their favor to mount a full 12 man.


No frickking way. That is GQ with respawn and only slightly better then SQ with respawn.

We already have skirmish groups in the queue, 12 made up of smaller groups.

Not to mention the backlash of 'sync dropping'.

You only have to look at the current GQ to see how well that idea would preform in CW.

Better idea, you must be in a group of at least four to even queue for CW, eliminating solo.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 05:42 AM

View PostSixpack, on 13 August 2018 - 03:15 AM, said:

Got tons of players with the current event I would wager.
They just won't stay cause it is probably neither fun nor rewarding for most of them and they are only doing it for the MC.

I would understand "more players" meant for the game as a whole, not just getting more of the existing players into FP

View PostTWIAFU, on 13 August 2018 - 04:32 AM, said:

Better idea, you must be in a group of at least four to even queue for CW, eliminating solo.

How will you give 9, 10 or 11 man groups teammates to fill their side to full 12 then?

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 07:06 AM

View PostUnKnownPlayer, on 13 August 2018 - 12:10 AM, said:


This would be a good idea, it would stop pop inbalance and prevent group dodging to some extent or faction stacking. The downside is that you would need to have both IS and Clan mechs in your stable (I know a lot of the members of my merc unit only have IS) and you would definitely need more than 1 minute to sort your deck out if the population killing was done during matchmaking. In fact it might even be possible to accidentally try to drop with the wrong faction tech. Then again that might be interesting from a RP point as the mercs could easily by IS based and being paid to work for clans or vise versa. In this case you would probably need 2 or 3 minutes at the start of the match to organise tactics and builds, probably with built in voice comms in the lobby.


Alternatively, you could have mercs be capable using any mech in their stable to create a drop deck, regardless of the faction they're dropping for. (Or, at the very least, creating and using either a full clan, or full IS deck.) It would actually be decent flavor too, since they are supposed to be "Guns for hire," and therefore generally NOT tied to the mechs available to the various factions. It even fits in as a nice "Perk" since they can't actually pick sides in a match, and will generally be placed on the side that is short-handed.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 11:17 AM

View PostTWIAFU, on 13 August 2018 - 04:32 AM, said:


No frickking way. That is GQ with respawn and only slightly better then SQ with respawn.

We already have skirmish groups in the queue, 12 made up of smaller groups.

Not to mention the backlash of 'sync dropping'.

You only have to look at the current GQ to see how well that idea would preform in CW.

Better idea, you must be in a group of at least four to even queue for CW, eliminating solo.

oh hell yes it has a plethora of problems.
this was just another idea in place of the Unit cap idea, which wouldn't give the affect for those that want a unit cap

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:12 PM

Still reading.. still updating. Due to a scheduling problem recording will be tomorrow but Daeron said editing time won't change so next 2-3 days for the podcast to go live.


Also wanted to pop in here and do a shoutout... I just did a data pull, and no you can't see it... but shoutouts to:

HeadHunters of Davion (HHOD)
Sky Rangers of Terra
12th Donegal Guards Battle Group
Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces
Clan Ghost Bear International
Arctotherium Winter
36th Dierons The Hungry Ghosts
SchorleHeadz
North Kurita
502 Pz Regt

For being the bigger units that said "we're not switching faction for no prizes!". You are serious loyalists!

#633 Nightbird

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:16 PM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 13 August 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Still reading.. still updating. Due to a scheduling problem recording will be tomorrow but Daeron said editing time won't change so next 2-3 days for the podcast to go live.


Also wanted to pop in here and do a shoutout... I just did a data pull, and no you can't see it... but shoutouts to:

HeadHunters of Davion (HHOD)
Sky Rangers of Terra
12th Donegal Guards Battle Group
Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces
Clan Ghost Bear International
Arctotherium Winter
36th Dierons The Hungry Ghosts
SchorleHeadz
North Kurita
502 Pz Regt

For being the bigger units that said "we're not switching faction for no prizes!". You are serious loyalists!


Lies, HHoD was Kurita for the first event :P

#634 Paul Inouye

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

View PostNightbird, on 13 August 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:


Lies, HHoD was Kurita for the first event Posted Image


TRAITORS!

#635 Ninjah

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:20 PM

I'll contribute this: Fix the hit boxes on the Omega gun. A lot of fighting is going on around it and it's hit boxes are the worst in whole MWO.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:22 PM

Also of note... not many people like Clan Steel Viper. Can't blame them. Posted Image

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:39 PM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 13 August 2018 - 02:22 PM, said:

Also of note... not many people like Clan Steel Viper. Can't blame them. Posted Image


Of course, who else would play as a Clan who has a no freeborn policy, got ejected out of the Inner Sphere, and started a Clan Civil War only to get themselves killed?Posted Image

But as for the shout out, that's nice of you. I really do hope you make loyalists mean more than game/forum vanity or as a way to bribe people with FP event rewards. While reading sourcebooks and field manuals are ok, factions need a lot more fanfare and flare than text.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 02:43 PM

View PostNightbird, on 13 August 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:


Lies, HHoD was Kurita for the first event Posted Image


Heh, and some of us have been removed from HHoD for our disloyalty. :)

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:09 PM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 13 August 2018 - 02:12 PM, said:

Still reading.. still updating. Due to a scheduling problem recording will be tomorrow but Daeron said editing time won't change so next 2-3 days for the podcast to go live.


Also wanted to pop in here and do a shoutout... I just did a data pull, and no you can't see it... but shoutouts to:

HeadHunters of Davion (HHOD)
Sky Rangers of Terra
12th Donegal Guards Battle Group
Tikonov Commonality Armed Forces
Clan Ghost Bear International
Arctotherium Winter
36th Dierons The Hungry Ghosts
SchorleHeadz
North Kurita
502 Pz Regt

For being the bigger units that said "we're not switching faction for no prizes!". You are serious loyalists!

Thanks for that. Many people don't see the role-play aspect of Clan Vs IS but I have stayed true even though some of our unit went merc. Even to make fun of Clan tech and mechs. Back in the day, I was Clan Fire Mandrill and stayed loyal till MWO came around. It was time to play the other side imo. The underdog has not always been a popular role nowadays.

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 03:25 PM

Scenario:

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Faction Chat: "Do you like c-Bills.. visit wwww.xyzmonies.net.gov. $4.99USD for 5M CB, $9.99USD for 12M CB, $49.99USD for 100M CB"

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This scenario plays out if you allow players to do c-bill transfers. i.e. coffer distribution. "Come join my unit and I'll transfer the farmed gold cbills to you."

However, there IS a possible solution to this... in order to transfer cbills, both players must be in the same unit for X number of days, where X > 14.

Thoughts?





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