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[Felbombling]

I haven't seen anything on new map development since the Solaris maps dropped. Did I miss anything? I'd hop on this Hatamoto-Chi bundle in an instant, but $55.00 turns into $75.00 CND, so I hesitate for those two reasons... lack of info on new map development and the exchange.

If someone from PGI would like to chime in here and give us the goods, that would be great. My wallet awaits.

[El Bandito]

At this stage, new map wont mean **** if players do not vote for it. PGI should revert back to random maps.

[TKSax]

hahahahahahaha

[FupDup]

El Bandito, on 31 August 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

At this stage, new map wont mean **** if players do not vote for it. PGI should revert back to random maps.

Or just make new maps that don't suck.

[Felbombling]

Normally I wouldn't factor the map development in, but they did go a full calendar year without a new map, so that makes me leery of pulling the trigger on this deal. And yes... it would help if the maps were great... and map voting went out the window.

[TKSax]

Felbombling, on 31 August 2018 - 06:59 PM, said:

Normally I wouldn't factor the map development in, but they did go a full calendar year without a new map,

So that is your answer right there. Honestly, with the way the numbers are trending, and where MWO is its development cycle, I would be very leery of putting any more money into MWO.

[Khobai]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

Or just make new maps that don't suck.

then players wont vote for old maps

either way the voting system is completely flawed and needs to be replaced with random maps

[FupDup]

Khobai, on 31 August 2018 - 07:01 PM, said:

then players wont vote for old maps

Then rework old maps to make those not suck.

[UnofficialOperator]

I hope MWO succeeds and all but they really need to get rid of the outdated map pack model.

Why would I pay so much when I can easily get 2-3 great games with the same amount?

E.g. I'm too lazy to do the conversion but I probably can get Battletech, Frostpunk & Elder Scrolls together?

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 31 August 2018 - 07:18 PM.

[FupDup]

UnofficialOperator, on 31 August 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

I hope MWO succeeds and all but they really need to get rid of the outdated map pack model.

Why would I pay so much when I can easily get 2-3 great games with the same amount?

E.g. I'm too lazy to do the conversion but I probably can get Battletech, Frostpunk & Elder Scrolls with the same amount?

To be fair, in a F2P game only a small number of people are ever going to pay even a little bit, thus the price paid for that small group of people does need to be higher on average than the amount paid by the player of a normal buy-2-play title (where every non-pirate player pays up the same amount).

However, I'm not defending the current pricing model (i.e. collector's packs are atrociously overpriced) and the concept of map packs are bad at any price point (thankfully F2P games tend to avoid map packs).

[UnofficialOperator]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

To be fair, in a F2P game only a small number of people are ever going to pay even a little bit, thus the price paid for that small group of people does need to be higher on average than the amount paid by the player of a normal buy-2-play title (where every non-pirate player pays up the same amount).

However, I'm not defending the current pricing model (i.e. collector's packs are atrociously overpriced) and the concept of map packs are bad at any price point (thankfully F2P games tend to avoid map packs).

You mean like Fortnite?

How about LoL?



I'm pretty sure if prices went down, population goes up.

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 31 August 2018 - 07:21 PM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

no Maps all working on FW ...thats was 2015 ,,,now all working to mW5 and we have become many maps with S7 and the Uglylite Map

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 31 August 2018 - 11:15 PM.

[Edustaja]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

However, I'm not defending the current pricing model (i.e. collector's packs are atrociously overpriced) and the concept of map packs are bad at any price point (thankfully F2P games tend to avoid map packs).

Map packs would work if it was more of a crowd funding deal instead of buying a pack. Eg. all the money towards the pack goes to its development but everyone gets to play the end result. Give the contributors some nifty cosmetics or a bonus to compensate like the tournament support thing.

Edited by Edustaja, 01 September 2018 - 01:22 AM.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Mappacks for buy splitting only the Community between the buyers and not-Buyers...and its a stupid modern Marketing idea ...when you buy a Car, you not buy a Street to drive of it.

[Khobai]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:

Then rework old maps to make those not suck.

Then we wont get any new maps

PGI gives us at best 2 new maps a year.... reworking old maps means no new maps.

And even if none of the maps suck, cold maps will still be voted over hot maps

which again is why we need random maps

[El Bandito]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

Or just make new maps that don't suck.

Player base could be very divided on the issue, depending on personal taste. It is far simpler for PGI to just randomize it.

For example, I know of players who has absolutely no issue with Forest Colony, yet I hate that map with passion, and will never vote for it.

[Vellron2005]

FupDup, on 31 August 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

Or just make new maps that don't suck.

^^^ This.

[xVLFBERHxT]

Love old and new mordor. Ice maps are so meta/ boring.

[Big Tin Man]

I've said it before and will say it again: map selection needs only 2 maps and RANDOM as the choices.

I also miss old Mordor.

[Mystere]

xVLFBERHxT, on 04 September 2018 - 02:50 AM, said:

Love old and new mordor. Ice maps are so meta/ boring.

I have had Domination battles on old Mordor that are best described as nothing short of EPIC!