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[AedanCousland]

So my Mech has Structure Quirks, 16% to the CT as an example. I've taken all the structure skills on the tree giving me a further +32% bonus. My question is, is that 32% applied everywhere or divided across each location on the mech, i.e. do I now have +48% CT bonus or +22.4%?

Edited by AedanCousland, 07 September 2018 - 10:31 AM.

[Eisenhorne]

OK, so here's how it works.

Your mech naturally has structure. Say it has 30 CT and 15 on both ST's. It has quirks of +10 structure to the CT, and to +5 the ST. It now has 40 CT, and 20 ST, because of the quirks, right?

Assume you now get 10% structure skills.

This means your CT is now 40 + 4 (10% of 40) = 44, and your ST's are now 20 + 2 (10% of 20) = 22.

Edited by Eisenhorne, 07 September 2018 - 12:12 PM.

[AedanCousland]

Eisenhorne, on 07 September 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

OK, so here's how it works.

Your mech naturally has structure. Say it has 30 CT and 15 on both ST's. It has quirks of +10 structure to the CT, and to +5 the ST. It now has 40 CT, and 20 ST, because of the quirks, right?

Assume you now get 10% structure quirks.

This means your CT is now 40 + 4 (10% of 40) = 44, and your ST's are now 20 + 2 (10% of 20) = 22.

Thanks but that wasn't even close to what I was asking. Is the skill based increase applied in full to each constituent part or divided across each constituent part? Forget quirks for the moment, if I have 100 structure in each of the five different areas, and through skills I gain +30% Structure bonus, do I have 130 structure in each of those five areas or do I have 106?

[Eisenhorne]

AedanCousland, on 07 September 2018 - 12:02 PM, said:

Thanks but that wasn't even close to what I was asking. Is the skill based increase applied in full to each constituent part or divided across each constituent part? Forget quirks for the moment, if I have 100 structure in each of the five different areas, and through skills I gain +30% Structure bonus, do I have 130 structure in each of those five areas or do I have 106?

I thought that's what my example tried to show, but yes, each component gets the full value of the % increase applied to it, instead of the % value divided by the number of components. It's why you should focus on getting structure nodes on mechs that have structure quirks, because the calculation is done as (base + quirks) * skills, instead of (base * skills) + quirks. Mechs with quirks benefit hugely from structure skills.

Edited by Eisenhorne, 07 September 2018 - 12:11 PM.

[AedanCousland]

Thank you and no, you said Quirks, I'm talking about skills, not quirks. Thanks again for clearing that up.

Edited by AedanCousland, 07 September 2018 - 12:12 PM.

[Eisenhorne]

Arg, I sometimes use the terms quirks and skills in the wrong place, when they obviously aren't the same thing. Sorry.

[TheCaptainJZ]

Quirks on mechs for armor and structure are expressed in raw numbers, not percentages iirc. Skills are always a percentage and yes, it's per component.

It would be pretty silly if the skill % was divided among components. I mean it's a good question, but it'd be a terrible design if it were made that way. It would be a pitiful bonus and the way it's worded wouldn't match what the average person would read it to mean.

[Mister Maf]

AedanCousland, on 07 September 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

Thank you and no, you said Quirks, I'm talking about skills, not quirks. Thanks again for clearing that up.

In fairness to him his original explanation did answer your question, because he applied his hypothetical 10% bonus fully to all of the components in the example.