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[brroleg]

I tried to reach 500 score during several quick play games(about 10), but i constantly was getting 450-480 points. I started to wonder what magic is this, why its constantly so close to 500 points but never reached it.
So i watched some Baradul's videos. And noticed, games where he reaches more than 500 score are those where he hitting targets with artillery consumables.
So here it is, pay to win aspect of this game. Before i honestly thought there is no pay2win in this game.

[FupDup]

You definitely can, but you need something like laser vomit or dakka vomit that spews out continuous spread damage in order to make it way easier. I hit the mark like 3 or 4 times I think.

Missiles are probably good for it but I only used them a little bit (didn't work well so I kept switching stuff around until settling for a laser vomit HBR to get the 500 score then a RAC Catapult later for funzies). I think I even managed to make the mark with my twin ERPPC Nova (only used it a few matches this event so memory is hazy).

Edited by FupDup, 08 September 2018 - 12:55 PM.

[John Bronco]

I don't consider using c-bills on consumables pay2win.

[SFC174]

I had no trouble hitting 500 match score without consumables. You don't even have to do a ton of damage. Just be efficient, kill things, (lots of KMDD), survive the match and maybe even hit an objective or two if the mode calls for it. I think I did a mere 750 dmg on my last 500 MS game for the event. You might have better luck with a high powered medium or light if you can pilot them since you get some additional bonuses for things you can't do in a heavy or assault (protected light/medium, etc.).

(and I'm not even close to being a top player....)

[BumbaCLot]

brroleg, on 08 September 2018 - 12:49 PM, said:

I tried to reach 500 score during several quick play games(about 10), but i constantly was getting 450-480 points. I started to wonder what magic is this, why its constantly so close to 500 points but never reached it.
So i watched some Baradul's videos. And noticed, games where he reaches more than 500 score are those where he hitting targets with artillery consumables.
So here it is, pay to win aspect of this game. Before i honestly thought there is no pay2win in this game.

Consumables are not pay2win. The CBill versions are identical to the MC versions. The cool shots used to be better but that was changed at a minimum 3+ months ago, and maybe up to a year.
And it's not required at all. Most LRM boats that do huge damage don't use any as they don't see the battle at all and couldn't strike Arty or airstrikes from their position.
You also don't need exactly 1000+ damage as the kill/solo kill/saviour kill/assist/flanking/brawling/hit and run and components destroyed/lance in formation/scouting etc all add to match score.

On top of all of this, team damage actually takes away from your 1000 damage = 500 match score, and an overly aggressive use of strikes too close to your team can do enormous damage.

I got my last 500ms game in my Madcat MkII B 2xUAC5/10 build and got like 630 match score, and don't think I used strikes at all as it was on Solaris City. And I didn't do 1260 damage. I did get 4 kills and 7 assists though.

[Viking Yelling]

You can get 400 match score, easy, by uaing LRMs.

[Tonberry Knife]

Take an AMS mech, don't do poorly, don't die and profit.

Edited by Tonberry Knife, 08 September 2018 - 01:13 PM.

[Alkabides]

500 match score easy sauce with lrms sans consumables. Cyclops 10-q provides.

[Kalleballe]

BSW with 3x rac2, AHN with 6xac2+erml is not too hard esp if you farm both st for extra dmg. Lurm 70 orion 2c-a should be easymode.

Edited by Kalleballe, 08 September 2018 - 01:38 PM.

[Agent 0range]

Also disagree popped 500 + score playing a dirty linebacker with SRMs 900 damage and a bunch of kills does it

[Greygor 727]

850 match score without using consumables.

Edited by Greygor 727, 08 September 2018 - 01:44 PM.

[Nightbird]

OP is right, you can't get a match score like this without dropping some 1000 damage strikes

Edited by Nightbird, 08 September 2018 - 01:44 PM.

[aardappelianen]

Wrong lol, i just did it in a mech without consumables its all about high damage and survival
In a previous event with high matscore requirements i just used triple ams kitfox to farm missiles but complete lurmagedons have become quite rare it seems

[FireStoat]

For the entire length of this game it was treated in that if you destroyed a side torso of a mech, you were awarded the damage figure of the arm (if it was still attached) as well for your running end game total. Only a couple of months ago this 'oversight' was fixed, and the arm was no longer counted for your damage as well as your match total.

My match score dropped the moment this happened by a significant amount, and so did everyone else that always used direct fire weapons to blast away a side torso like we've practiced to do as a reflex. LRM users didn't really miss much with this I guess due to the sandpaper effect of the weapon. I agree with the OP though - PGI made a decision and it's had the results they wanted.

[VonBruinwald]

SFC174, on 08 September 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

I had no trouble hitting 500 match score without consumables. You don't even have to do a ton of damage...
I think I did a mere 750 dmg on my last 500 MS game for the event.

(and I'm not even close to being a top player....)

750 damage is not a 'mere' amount, unless you're talking FP.

[KrazedOmega]

You absolutely do not need consumables to get 500 match score. I've gotten a few 500+ score games during this challenge. MadCat MKII with dual gauss, 2hll, 2erml. Hellbringer with 2hll, 4erml. Any mech that can pump out the damage and get a few kills will work.

[Lukoi Banacek]

I've done it multiple times. Just takes time, positioning, and a bit of luck (and a drawn out enough match typically).

[Snowbluff]

I tried my Sleipnir with 4 LB10. Not as fun an my HGR ERML build, but it's easier to play for sure. It got the job done.

Edited by Snowbluff, 08 September 2018 - 08:24 PM.

[justcallme A S H]

The issue is to get 500 match score it means one of two things...

1 Actual being good.
2. Sitting back and LRMing like true Wolf Loyalist.

You don't need consumables at all.

[Mumuharra]

I reached a score of 600+ with one of my missile boats once and 500 + more often.
It was realy pure luck with enemy’s, team, map and game.
But it’s doable without consumables.

Edited by Mumuharra, 08 September 2018 - 09:00 PM.