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[Roughneck45]

No reason to mute everyone when it is so easy to mute the offenders only. TAB, click, done.

[s0da72]

I was initially concerned when they first mentioned bring in VOIP to the game. As it turned out it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be. Maybe 1 to 2 matches out of 20 I would see someone who would abuse the system. I haven't played in a while so maybe that number has changed. I don't understand why online PvP type games don't take advantage of new technologies that would allow voice commands to be given. That way they could control what is allowed using a whitelist and reduce the chances of it being abused. Like 'go left', or 'enemy ahead' it could be an endless number of things allowed all verbally controlled no keys to map.

[Shifty McSwift]

Kubernetes, on 18 September 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

Just mute the trolls and worst offenders. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and you're not going to hear me warning you that a Piranha party is creeping up on your backside.

Yeah but I'm not a stare firing hill humper, i'll likely be with you paying attention and noticing those pihranas sneaking up on some pleb... NOW, the argument goes to "well you should have a headset or type to warn them" and sometimes I do, but the percentage times I get a reaction suiting such information granting is so negligible that it actually becomes a waste of time to do, it is safer to try and engage them/shoo them or leave the tunnel visioned guy to die a lonely tunnel visioned death.

UnKnownPlayer, on 18 September 2018 - 11:14 AM, said:

Just for the love of god turn it back on before going in to FP

Of course, I wouldn't subject a FP group to that, there's way too much genuine comms going on there, but I don't actually like FP unfortunately, for the most part it came across as a camp/snipe fest, which I don't find fun in MWO.

Christophe Ivanov, on 18 September 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

Being more than half deaf, I get along without it just fine.

Exactly this too, there are plenty of folks who cannot actually hear and/of have no access to sound on their system at all, everyone should be able to play effectively without speakers, unless you don't want to include those people I guess.

[jper4]

I haven't been playing as much lately but the matches i';m showing up in VOIP has hardly even been used at all nevermind enough to want me to mute it.

[C E Dwyer]

Shifty McSwift, on 17 September 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

I used to be in the basket of "it is always better to get info than not", but several incidents involving trolls, in people abusing voip, and in people countering scouting info that I was providing, and in people either ignoring or just outright doing the opposite of things said over voip, and I found myself in a different basket, now I find it actually safer to just watch the flow of friendly mechs and try to act with them, and utilise the untrollable info like target spotted etc.

I just wonder if I am alone in this regard, or if anyone has some argument that might sway me to put it back on I'd like to hear it, or if anyone else has similar feelings and/or anecdotes.

For a while now it really feels like QP has been getting purposely trolled, and I honestly don't see a real solution there, other than not playing QP of course.

If P.G.I had a mute /block function that actually worked, and wasn't bugged to perdition and back, then there would be no reason to turn Voip off.

Sadly it only mutes during that game, many A - holes that were previously blocked in chat, can still assault your ears in voip due to P.G.I's poor quality work.

[JediPanther]

I don't use voip for medical reasons that left me pretty much mute but I leave it on for unit members in group drops. Ironically I'm one of the unit's dedicated recon scouts since I like the advantage of spaming enemy type location etc for focus fire. In qp forget it. No one uses team work in qp any more. A few of my mechs are dedicated scout builds with some having just two ersmls only.

[thievingmagpi]

"hey Atlas turn around... hey Atlas there turn around... hey Atlas, my dude you need to-"


Well, I tried.

*takes off mic*

[Kubernetes]

Shifty McSwift, on 18 September 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

Yeah but I'm not a stare firing hill humper, i'll likely be with you paying attention and noticing those pihranas sneaking up on some pleb... NOW, the argument goes to "well you should have a headset or type to warn them" and sometimes I do, but the percentage times I get a reaction suiting such information granting is so negligible that it actually becomes a waste of time to do, it is safer to try and engage them/shoo them or leave the tunnel visioned guy to die a lonely tunnel visioned death.

Be real. Unless you are using hacks you cannot be aware of everything around you all the time. You've literally convinced yourself that it's better to get less information from your teammates. Think about that. If you were Proton level or a top top player I'd shut up, but no, you're not even close.

[UnKnownPlayer]

Shifty McSwift, on 18 September 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

Of course, I wouldn't subject a FP group to that, there's way too much genuine comms going on there, but I don't actually like FP unfortunately, for the most part it came across as a camp/snipe fest, which I don't find fun in MWO.

You have clearly met the wrong people, go find 31HR, CBR, OSO, LORE etc. and I'm sure you wont have that experience.

[Eisenhorne]

UnKnownPlayer, on 19 September 2018 - 09:38 AM, said:

You have clearly met the wrong people, go find 31HR, CBR, OSO, LORE etc. and I'm sure you wont have that experience.

Or drop with ISMO or KCOM... I'm pretty sure those guys never run anything slower than 80 KPH, and they never run anything with a range greater than 300 meters.

[Shifty McSwift]

Kubernetes, on 19 September 2018 - 09:12 AM, said:

Be real. Unless you are using hacks you cannot be aware of everything around you all the time. You've literally convinced yourself that it's better to get less information from your teammates. Think about that. If you were Proton level or a top top player I'd shut up, but no, you're not even close.

I didn't mean to suggest that I am some uber player who sees all I more meant it like this guy does;

thievingmagpi, on 19 September 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

"hey Atlas turn around... hey Atlas there turn around... hey Atlas, my dude you need to-"


Well, I tried.

*takes off mic*

Even in the best of circumstances your info often goes unnoticed and is a drain on the self and your output in that moment, it has become more functional to go without for me, or more bearable, or both, like I said I came from the camp of any info is better than no info, but experience in QP has swayed me from that point.

[JRcam4643]

It's a been a while since I've had a bad voip experience. But that's partly cause I almost never say anything. I used to try and help the team out over voip every battle and while I did win more there was a lot more strife with it.

[Kelbor]

I see it the same way JRcam4643. I've tried to be helpful calling targets and weak spots and I tend to get STFU from someone and just give up talking for the night. I noticed most of the anger comes with players with a unit tag. I don't get it? They work hard to get an invite to a unit so they can play at a higher level as a team and then go play SQ once they get into one and get angry at the rest of us for bad comms or not working as a team. I just try to keep my mouth shut in most situations and prepare to get 12-2 stomped again.

[PAYWALL]

I don't use VOIP actively, because i am not an english native speaker and feel ashamed of my german accent, but i don't wan't to miss some good commchatter. It's the only game i play we're VOIP isn't disabled. It isn't just the additional battlefield information via comms but also the atmosphere when an old grumpy battletech vet does some good dropcalls in a game that otherwise only has bitchin betty and mediocre soundeffects (ok some of them are pretty good). If someone flames or is toxic its just tab + one click to mute him. Problem solved.

[Variant1]

PAYWALL, on 20 September 2018 - 08:49 AM, said:

I don't use VOIP actively, because i am not an english native speaker and feel ashamed of my german accent,

woah theres no need to be ashmed of being german man, one bad man in the past doesnt mean everyone is bad in the present. do not feel shame brother .

Edited by Variant1, 20 September 2018 - 09:15 AM.

[PAYWALL]

Variant1, on 20 September 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

woah theres no need to be ashmed of being german man, one bad man in the past doesnt mean everyone is bad in the present. do not feel shame brother .

I wasn't reffering to our history. Just this accent sounds so silly. Also my voice is pretty flimsy and not very "drop call" like.

[Variant1]

PAYWALL, on 20 September 2018 - 09:19 AM, said:

I wasn't reffering to our history. Just this accent sounds so silly. Also my voice is pretty flimsy and not very "drop call" like.

sorry. its okay if your accend sounds silly, to be honest id prefer a silly accent it would make drop calls sound much better and you dont need the voice of morgan freeman to drop call. im sure people would not have a problem listening to your voice

[Kubernetes]

Variant1, on 20 September 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

we told them it would be a waste of dev time to implement soemthing most would not use, we warned them of the mic screamers. but not the pro voip said "muh tactics", real men type like men. And plus there were plenty of voice tools for premades that were used before it got implemented for mwo so its doubly redundant. As protest i and most others people have voice chat disabled. i still communicat and give info on keyboard to my team cuz im a real man

Yeah, and how's that working out for you?

Paywall-- don't worry about whether your voice is pleasing or not. All that matters is that you're being helpful.

[Variant1]

Kubernetes, on 20 September 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

Yeah, and how's that working out for you?

well im wrekin fools left and right so its working out pretty well actually. helps with multitasking and makes combat much more intense.

[BumbaCLot]

Variant1, on 20 September 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

well im wrekin fools left and right so its working out pretty well actually. helps with multitasking and makes combat much more intense.

Oh another one of those "this is my forum account" guys.
Real men don't make new accounts to troll on MWO and use their main to troll the forums?