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[IronWatch]

mad kat, on 12 November 2018 - 05:25 AM, said:

Are you for real????

Yeah they're fine if your on the winning team but even then that gets boring. The argument here is that the game repeatedly puts low skilled players on one team and high skilled players on the other team with predictable results.

More often than not expecting one or two players on each side to carry. But theres only so much you can do when half your team NASCAR's, meat shields, fires through freindlies, or runs off in different directions playing John Rambo.

The only thing PGI has done perfectly is make a select few mechs look awesome!

Thats some heavy conspiracy theory lunacy you're working on there. Surely it makes sense for the server to average out your skill level across all of your stats and decide that you are a punching bag for other players to farm XP from. Listen dude, these games don't work like that but it is an easy placebo effect to feel like youre experiencing. I've had great luck with the matchmaker, hovering around the 1:1 W/L ratio. Thats ideal matchmaking to me. I hate to say it, but could some of you be an active detriment to your teams and die before contributing to their success?

[mad kat]

IronWatch, on 12 November 2018 - 06:06 AM, said:

**snip**

See here:
https://mwomercs.com...__fromsearch__1

While not exactly 'authenticated' and double checked it certainly explains a lot. It would also explain why PGI are burying their heads in sand with this and outright ignoring the daily threads about this subject.

Hell Even Paul started a topic about the MM then outright vanished from it. They don't give monkeys, they have their new poster child to work on.

[FireStoat]

Palor, on 10 November 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

The match maker simply can't function with most of the people playing all Tier 1. Maybe if PGI would reset everyone to tier 4 at the end of the year, adjust how PSR is earned, and generally make a viable system besides everyone goes up, then we can have a Matchmaker.

This please. PGI doing a reset of Tier for everyone not tier 5 being set to the bottom of tier 4 every November for the game anniversary would be fantastic.

[tutzdes]

FireStoat, on 12 November 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

This please. PGI doing a reset of Tier for everyone not tier 5 being set to the bottom of tier 4 every November for the game anniversary would be fantastic.

It would only be fantastic for sealclubbers who are craving for Ace of Spades, but are unable to get it otherwise.

[Dragonporn]

tutzdes, on 12 November 2018 - 02:17 PM, said:

It would only be fantastic for sealclubbers who are craving for Ace of Spades, but are unable to get it otherwise.

P.S. Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Shifty McSwift]

Dragonporn, on 12 November 2018 - 10:41 PM, said:

[snip]

P.S. Sorry, couldn't resist.

I notice the MadIIC on the enemy team actually put a LOT more work in though lol, but 8 kills with 469 damage is a feat in itself, so, well done, grats and salut.

[Dragonporn]

Shifty McSwift, on 12 November 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

I notice the MadIIC on the enemy team actually put a LOT more work in though lol, but 8 kills with 469 damage is a feat in itself, so, well done, grats and salut.

Haha, he was actually the last one to die. Guy was a good shot, no joke, but situation was pretty ridiculous. This giant thing walk around and sat behind us near the hill literally whole round and been shooting us in the back, and nobody, I mean NOBODY even tried to take him out. I was very surprised we won that one.

[Tarl Cabot]

FireStoat, on 12 November 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

This please. PGI doing a reset of Tier for everyone not tier 5 being set to the bottom of tier 4 every November for the game anniversary would be fantastic.

iie. not a reset but a realignment with no movement for tier 4-5 players, essentially and Tier 4.75 would be the lowest a person could be moved down to.

[AidenTaan]

I'm completely new to the game (Tier 5) despite having my account since forever (simply didn't play). Yesterday I patched and played some games and I have to admit that more than 50% of these games were one-sided stomps. Games were actually ending faster than MatchMaker was "searching" for them.

But that solo play came after an attempt to play with my newbie (Tier 5) friend. We picked NA and EU we played around 9pm UTC and... we couldn't find games. There was ~30min wait time. Is that... normal? Is it because of the patch? I want to play with my friend together and I want to play MWO not something else with a side of MWO every 30 minutes. Is it because of faction play event? Patch? Poor hours to play in groups?

What I'm really asking is: is there any way to actually play with my friend and have the games found reliably? Or is it just down to how MatchMaker works?

[Rebel Ace Fryslan]

Only let soloplayers in QP,

team and solo in FP and solaris.

it is because of the Invasion event.


@aidentaan, because of the event in invasion.


PS: this forum software is outdated and full of bugs, can;t even qoute someone.

Edited by Rebel Ace Fryslan, 14 November 2018 - 08:27 AM.

[AidenTaan]

Rebel Ace Fryslan, on 14 November 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

@aidentaan, because of the event in invasion.

Thanks. I was afraid it was that - I was trying to look for some info before asking here, but it's scattered and some of it is very old.

I guess the best way to really get to play then would be to find an outfit and learn directly from the veterans, no?

[C E Dwyer]

FireStoat, on 12 November 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

This please. PGI doing a reset of Tier for everyone not tier 5 being set to the bottom of tier 4 every November for the game anniversary would be fantastic.

Completely pointless, a reset doesn't change the fact, M.W.O hasn't enough players to make any MM work, reset or no.

All that will happen is the wait times will go up, massively, for those that are genuinely good, until the rest catch up. which will cause cry of open the gates earlier, giving you what you have now.

Having spent the year playing other games that have 10 times the number of active players, and this, there is very little difference in the quality of the game play.

The extra population does mean objectives take on, a far greater level of importance, than in M.W.O, which actually can be more frustrating, as a potato throws the game to score a few thousand extra damage. but just as many steam rolls happen..

Be thankful that M.W.O matches are often over well before the 10 minute mark, being forced to watch a sure win thrown away on a 20 minute timer, is far more annoying than the feeling of yup same old same old here.

[mad kat]

C E Dwyer, on 14 November 2018 - 08:55 AM, said:

Completely pointless, a reset doesn't change the fact, M.W.O hasn't enough players to make any MM work, reset or no.

All that will happen is the wait times will go up, massively, for those that are genuinely good, until the rest catch up. which will cause cry of open the gates earlier, giving you what you have now.

Having spent the year playing other games that have 10 times the number of active players, and this, there is very little difference in the quality of the game play.

The extra population does mean objectives take on, a far greater level of importance, than in M.W.O, which actually can be more frustrating, as a potato throws the game to score a few thousand extra damage. but just as many steam rolls happen..

Be thankful that M.W.O matches are often over well before the 10 minute mark, being forced to watch a sure win thrown away on a 20 minute timer, is far more annoying than the feeling of yup same old same old here.

Unfortunately this compromised approach is just a downward spiral. To get good games i'll gladly wait until i'm matched up with someone else equally as good (or bad) and go and watch YouTube or browse the web in the meantime. But as it stands the game is more interested in getting active game time in to give the misconception of 'active players'. This however results in A LOT of terrible games.......Which does what?...... Drives people away. And the vicious circle continues.

My brother recently started playing again (not really a BT fan) and even he understands that this can't continue and we're waiting for the proverbial plug to be pulled. When and if MW5 gets released will likely be the time, so not long now.

Edited by mad kat, 22 November 2018 - 06:19 AM.

[UnkerZ]

mad kat, on 12 November 2018 - 05:25 AM, said:

Are you for real????

Yeah they're fine if your on the winning team but even then that gets boring. The argument here is that the game repeatedly puts low skilled players on one team and high skilled players on the other team with predictable results.

More often than not expecting one or two players on each side to carry. But theres only so much you can do when half your team NASCAR's, meat shields, fires through freindlies, or runs off in different directions playing John Rambo.

The only thing PGI has done perfectly is make a select few mechs look awesome!

You know that feeling when a potato casually walks in front of your 100 ton artillery to take a friggin ppc potshot... One day, I will seriously pull the trigger.

To be fair, the MM still seems to balance highly skilled players at least - I haven't had a match where me and opposing team did not have event 1 decent player. But the number of potatoes quickly outmatch the skill of a single pilot. I had a match with Lizzie gunning down 6 fellas only to get mobbed to death eventually (ya know.. like blind mates, or those who run in yolo and exploding in 3 seconds) - the match ended pretty fair at 12-9. Those potatoes may have been better off being the meat shields instead of carrying any weapons haha...

Maybe the bigger problem is... there is no one to MM! Taada!

[Dee Eight]

IronWatch, on 12 November 2018 - 06:06 AM, said:

SNIP

I just cannot be bothered to read the post of someone who appears to be either a completely brand new player who purchased someone else's account (is in the current month leaderboard at 268 matches so far this month but has no jarl's stats for the previous 28 months) or someone who's returned to the game after many years away, and is already telling the rest of us how things actually are with no practical knowledge of the past several years of actual game play.