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[Davegt27]

[evilauthor]

I have managed to get two head shot kills in my entire MWO career.

The first time, a Battlemaster walked right up to my Catapult so I basically COULDN'T MISS him at all. I just raised my point of aim to his cockpit and unloaded all my short ranged weaponry.

The second time happened YEARS later. I was in a general fire fight and shooting at a King Crab with dual gauss rifles. The King Crab suddenly died and I was credited with the kill. I looked over to the KC's wireframe before it disappeared and saw that only its head was missing. That head cap was pure luck.

[Curccu]

Valyknir, on 06 October 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

Refer to Nightbird's post.

I've seen airstrikes get them in the past, too.

Strikes used to be the easies way to get headshot, nowdays 100% impossible.

[Yondu Udonta]

Davegt27, on 09 October 2018 - 05:00 AM, said:

seems there should be a ton of people that have Guillotine achievement

Not many, I only know 3. Gangben, Alef Kurita, Cara Carcass. I myself only have 100+ headshots across two accounts. Then again now with Solaris you can game the system and keep farming headshots against another account of yours or a friend.

[- World Eater -]

Just got a free one off of an afk ha

[A Distraction]

One guy today kept pretty consistently headshotting me and teammates over the course of two games, but in both cases was unable to kill me with a single volley, though in one case he nailed 2 headshot volleys in a row to kill me, and yes I was twisting and moving top speed, he forced me to twist so hard in the second match that he casually backshot instead lol. Was pretty sus, but probably doable with the gauss and all the backup he had.

[Jables McBarty]

Valyknir, on 06 October 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

I've seen airstrikes get them in the past, too.

Mcgral18, on 07 October 2018 - 01:24 AM, said:

That has since been removed
Strikes don't damage faces

justcallme A S H, on 07 October 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

I can say with 100% fact - they do good sir!

I killed myself with my own airstrike, which took out my cockpit (which was already open).

Possibly the most rare of situations in MWO lol.

Had to look this one up - I'd thought McGral was correct, but then like ASH says, I've definitely seen my face light up after getting hit.

Patch Notes May 2016 said:

Gameplay Fixes and Changes

Air Strikes, Artillery Strikes, and Long Tom Strikes

The amount of Damage Dealt to a component from a explosion is now based on that components distance from the explosion, along with the amount of surface area exposed to it. The amount of damage dealt decreases at a logarithmic rate.
With this change explosion damage will behave more consistently, and will allow players to better minimize and manage the amount of damage taken to critical components by turning away from the blast.

• Explosions no longer deal Critical Damage.
  
• Long Tom Strike: Maximum amount of Damage that can be dealt to a single 'Mech is now 1650 DMG (150 DMG per Component).
  
• Long Tom Strike: Blast radius is 300m.
  
• Artillery Strike: Maximum amount of Damage that can be dealt to a single 'Mech is now 165 DMG (15 DMG per Component).
  
• Artillery Strike: Shell Radius is 30m.
  
• Air Strike: Maximum amount of Damage that can be dealt to a single 'Mech is now 165 DMG (15 DMG per Component).
  
• Air Strike: Bomb Radius is 30m.

(Link to May 2016 Patch Notes)

So you can still get a headshot kill with one if the 'mech in question has fewer than 15 hp left in the head (or less if outside the central impact zone).

Edited by Jables McBarty, 10 October 2018 - 10:08 AM.

[reflectorjones]

I've been playing since August 2014 and have 78 headshots.

I really wish you could select which mechs you want dumped in the training grounds with you so you could identify exactly where the cockpits are on all the various mechs.

PGI - how about it?

[Karl Streiger]

Well in closed beta head hitboxes were bigger.... and even then it was not an issue - at least not as long as you were not staring at an enemy.
Even easy head victims like the Catapult was a pain when driven by a skilled pilot. Of course when fighting newbs you could dispatch half the enemy team in some seconds on your own. (Best thing ever have seen was an Atlas blocking an Awesome and a Catapult at the ramp in the first River City.... 3 Gauss rounds and 6 Large Laser shots later they were dead.... the Atlas died last)


Since HSR and the reduction of the head hitbox - the number dropped and helped newbs greatly in not getting killed when staring..... usually its better to aim for damaged components on the fly then to align your perfect shot for a longer aim period.

[LordNothing]

i got absurdly good at getting headshots against annihilators in solaris div1. i usually take quadac10s since thats usually enough to onehit the cockpit. many of the anihilators are built as ac2 boats. sometimes you get lb boats or ac10 boats. but the ac2 boats are probably the easiest to head shot. the trick is you really need to press the attack, focus on spreading that damage to as much of your armor as possible while you close in. this gives the ac2 boat a great opportunity for overheating (though i actually scored my headshot against a much better pilot who was managing heat). if they shut down outright thats good you get a free kill. if they manage their heat they will reduce their rate of fire significantly and thats a good oppritunity for the headshot. a lot of ac2 boats will stay completely still as they try to aim their guns and thats another weakness you can exploit. i usually hold fire till i got a good bead.

theres also the b approach where you can strip a mech of its weapons, arms, one of its legs and a side torso (preferably the one with the most guns) or two if you think they are running std. its actually not hard to do this with quad 10s. then go for the head shot when you dont have to worry about dieing. you got to be careful to avoid ct damage as those ac10s will only give you a few chances to miss the head and hit the ct before the enemy mech dies.

[Dee Eight]

i've had players offer to let others headshot them in solaris and my response has been "200mc isn't worth playing solaris". Not to mention the fact if you have to cheat to get the goal... just uninstall. Please.

reflectorjones, on 10 October 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

I've been playing since August 2014 and have 78 headshots.

I really wish you could select which mechs you want dumped in the training grounds with you so you could identify exactly where the cockpits are on all the various mechs.

PGI - how about it?

different training ground maps do seem some variations in the mech targets.

[LordNothing]

Dee Eight, on 11 October 2018 - 06:03 AM, said:

i've had players offer to let others headshot them in solaris and my response has been "200mc isn't worth playing solaris". Not to mention the fact if you have to cheat to get the goal... just uninstall. Please.

i got mine fair and square thank you. and against a guy with a much much higher w/l than mine. i can imagine more dishonorable tactics, like afk farming.

[Dr Cara Carcass]

Mcgral18, on 07 October 2018 - 01:24 AM, said:

That has since been removed
Strikes don't damage faces


Use HGauss, aim face-ish
Curse Bubble canopies (as the hitbox is a tiny arbitrary square inside that sphere)

I just got an arty headshot last night....

[Dr Cara Carcass]

Davegt27, on 08 October 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:

I refuse to do the head shot challenge

saw a mini argument break out on one twitch streamers channel after one guy in a match said it was almost impossible
to get a head shot

it sort of made me wonder how many players have the 1000 head shot Guillotine achievement?

I know I been on the training grounds more then a few times trying to test out head shot locations

anyone want to post how many head shots they have?

in case PGI is watching I don't actively go after head shots I only have 22 after 22k drops

I always thought people hated head shot (remember when CW started and the drop ships where head shot experts)

any more thoughts

Ther a re several ppl who have the archivement, i got mine almost exclusively with dual gauss + laser vomit from afar. Some went the easy flamer spl route in a way shorter time. Some did it with a mixture of techniques. If i think about it, i get a headshot every 2-3 games now, when i want to.

Yondu Udonta, on 09 October 2018 - 08:23 AM, said:

Not many, I only know 3. Gangben, Alef Kurita, Cara Carcass. I myself only have 100+ headshots across two accounts. Then again now with Solaris you can game the system and keep farming headshots against another account of yours or a friend.

Wow people really do that? thats lame....

I would add proton to the list, i was watching him when he had over 700 if i remember it right, and at that time i had like 300. Its in my mind a given that he has done it. Also i know another guy that was way ahead of me with the dual gauss method but i overtook him over a year ago. He is currently at 228, but i cannot remember his name at the moment. He had a few videos when i was with the robinson ranger if my memory doesnt trick me.

I would say the 1k mark has been beaten by about 50 players. About a year ago i met a groupt who was mostly doing 1v1 on trainings maps. Most of them where very close to breaking 1k and must have done it by now. I mean pgi has the stats - perhaps someone can post the number of palyers who archived it without nameing them if people dont want to be mentioned.

on a side note, i have exactly 2^9 posts now.

Edited by Cara Carcass, 13 October 2018 - 05:15 PM.

[Comante]

I always try to HS, Managed 1 or 2 as a novice player with AC20, then nothing in combat, but anyway, unless a mech has already holes in his armour, if I have to shoot CT, I try to HS, the worst that can happen is to hit it anyway.

[John McClintock]

5 head shots since I started going for them about a month ago, first one was a D/C, the rest were live combat. They are hard, but a pair of HML do wonders. Zoom in, and find the right window.

At that rate ~20 years from now I'll get the title!!! woot! Can't wait! lol

[Darian DelFord]

[panzer1b]

90% of teh time when i get a headshot its not really intentional, and more often then not its a snapshot in a brawl with heavy gauss (which is almost exclusively target CT unless its something i know has 1 sided build or is already open torso).

As for the other 10%, its mostly dual GR fired randomly at targets from 1km, which is suprising given that the only way to get a headshot with dual gauss at any range is if they seriously stripped armor off the head, and when it happens, its almost always a warhawk or direpig, 2 mechs id imagine one should never strip head armor from anyways.

[Escef]

panzer1b, on 06 April 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

90% of teh time when i get a headshot its not really intentional, and more often then not its a snapshot in a brawl...

Somewhere around is a highlight where peeked my KGC over the ridge at the Caldera on Caustic Valley, called arty, did a twin AC20 snapshot at a Battlemaster, and torso twisted and backed away in anticipation of return fire. Several seconds later I was told that I cockpitted the poor guy out.

As a side note, some mechs are just easier to cockpit than others. The Battlemaster and Shadowhawk have pretty obvious cockpit hitboxes in particular. (The Catapult used to be pretty bad, too, but got rewaorked a long time ago.)