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[WeskerWild]

Hi all,

So been playing this game on and off since 2012/2013 and still got my first mechs I purchased,

So all them years ago I wanted to get my very own mech and stop using the trails, So as back then the Commando was the cheapest I brought one loved it back then and still love it now.

I am running the Com 2D (gotta love ECM) and I do pretty good in it but always looking at tweeking it to try and improve but seem to mainly read on forums that its been left behind to other lights and not bother, But at the same time I am watching it being used in Tournements by the pro teams!!!

Sadly not linked with the site to show my build but I run ECM with 2 SRM4's and a ER small laser and top speed of 146kph and max armour.

Is there a place were the Commando haters stay away from and the 2018 lovers post and show builds?

Many thanks
WeskerWild

[Marquis De Lafayette]

The only thing to hate about commandos is that I hate trying to kill one of those little buggers. It’s an amazingly survivable mech.

[InvictusLee]

Ive got a 2D with Stealth Armor, ecm, and 2 srm 2's in the arms and a 4 in the chest.

I named it sucker punch for a reason. It will sneak right up to any assault mech"s behind, alpha twice and disappear.

[Brizna]

Commando is possibly the hardest light mech to kill at the moment, just don't expect it to produce tons of damage, if you are looking for that look elsewhere.... but you can really troll full enemy team with it, you would be surprised how much attention you can draw upon yourself yet survive.

[LordNothing]

still a fun little bugger imho.

[GeminiWolf]

WeskerWild, on 31 October 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

Hi all,

So been playing this game on and off since 2012/2013 and still got my first mechs I purchased,

So all them years ago I wanted to get my very own mech and stop using the trails, So as back then the Commando was the cheapest I brought one loved it back then and still love it now.

I am running the Com 2D (gotta love ECM) and I do pretty good in it but always looking at tweeking it to try and improve but seem to mainly read on forums that its been left behind to other lights and not bother, But at the same time I am watching it being used in Tournements by the pro teams!!!

Sadly not linked with the site to show my build but I run ECM with 2 SRM4's and a ER small laser and top speed of 146kph and max armour.

Is there a place were the Commando haters stay away from and the 2018 lovers post and show builds?

Many thanks
WeskerWild

I love my Commando, when I run it. When I finish skilling up other mechs its my go to. Try SRM2s with lots of Cooldown skills. It rakes and fires fast Then run between the legs of the opposing team to drive them nuts!

[TheCaptainJZ]

The only Commando that was ever any good was the 2D with ECM and perhaps the Death's Knell. The only one I see occasionally is the 2D with stealth armor. Impossible to find and it can get some good shots in with SRMs. It's nice to see that the chassis has some use at least. The 2D with streaks used to be what I ran in 2013, but streaks don't get you anywhere these days. Don't expect many kills though. SRMs require ammo and getting close and it just can't pump out that much hurt. Sadly, I can't remember the last time I saw a Jenner. That thing used to take down Atlases.

[Mister Maf]

I don't think you'll find much hate for the Commando. Yeah it doesn't bring as much firepower as some other mechs, but damn it's a tough little bugger. I have a 2D with ECM and SRM2s and find it to be very effective at diving for rear armor hits.

[Mole]

It's not the heaviest hitter of its weight class but it's still a pretty potent little machine if you know what you're doing.

This is the build I settled on a long time ago and I still find it to be the most optimal build for me even after new tech: COM-1B

I've fiddled around with it some since new tech, trying to give it more range by replacing the MLs with ERMLs and the SRM6 with an MRM10. I found the change to be detrimental though as the playstyle for this 'mech allows you to very easily get very close to the enemy you are engaging and the ERs hurt my damage output because I almost always found myself within optimal range for regular MLs and the ERMLs did nothing but saddle me with a longer cooldown. I found that the MRM10 similarly hurt my damage output because again, I almost always found myself within SRM range and ultimately the MRM10 does less damage than the SRM6 and the fact that I had to hold myself on target for a missile stream duration rather than one splat and move trigger pull honestly gave me even more spread than a non-artemis SRM6.

[WeskerWild]

I will keep with my Commando, Love the fast paced action more then anything else (Used to be a Brawler but it got kinda boring for me).

Cap JZ, I have the Jenner D (s), and I am always taking that out with 2 srm4's and 4 small pulse and I always find myself doing 500+ dmg (unless the team just falls apart). she does just under 150kph so it can be hard to hit and yes it still strips rear armour apart and I have done that against the clan assualts!!

And if anything I love playing the under dog mechs as it makes the game just a bit more of a challenge and when you get a few kills and huge damage its a even great feeling!

Edited by WeskerWild, 01 November 2018 - 09:37 AM.

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Commando-1B is quite enjoyable. Look no further.

[Magnus Santini]

Nerf after nerf to the heat quirks it once had until they are finally completely gone. PGI swatted the Flea also. I guess because of the never-ending forum complaints that the smallest IS mechs had too many hardpoints and were wrecking the game. Still fun to play but the difficulty is a little higher. I imagine the battleplan is something like this: 1. COM alpha, its not very effective. KDK alpha, missed. 2. COM alpha, its not very effective. KDK alpha, missed. . . . until 5. COM overheats and stands still. Enemy points and clicks, its super-effective!

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

commando is rock-solid.
like others said: not the top dmg-dealer, but damn tough and super-enjoyable to pilot.

can swirl around and "heat up" the entire enemy team in QP, can troll with stealth even more. what's not to like about it?

[tutzdes]

As it was said before me, there is no hate for Commando among people who aren't die-hard light mech haters.

My favourite Commando is TDK, I also love COM-2D (which works pretty great as an SRM-pest in any mode and as NARC-mech in FP).

Compared to other lights Commandos have very good durability and are very hard to hit. Firepower is relatively weak, alphas are very low, so you need to sustain the fight to get things done. TDK has pretty good firepower, but is vulnerable to disarming.

Use of Commando chassis is usually a giveaway of good light pilot. It is not easy to uncover its potential, but the mech is extremely effective if you do.

[WeskerWild]

Thanks for all the replys and now looking into a few other Commando's, dunno if I like the idea of TDK as having your arms removed so you cant defend your self against other lights is pretty bad.

Having great games with my 2D as I really dont mind doing much damage but love being tactical in matchs using my 2 UVA to find the whole team (finding the spots to hide them round corners but stil spot the enemy), Oh and annoying someone and make them chase you round the battle field while the rest of their team gets wiped out!! Best result so far is being chased and keeping 3 enemy mechs busy and still survive when my whole team comes to get um after wiping out the other 9.

It can be frustrating when you show your team what they are doing so its easy to counter their moves but they dont and die but thats all part of QP.

Considering looking for a IS group to join and do Faction play as a light player but getting much more practice aswell as a few different builds that suit me instead of these Meta builds that I never get on with :/

Light mechs FTW

Edited by WeskerWild, 02 November 2018 - 09:12 AM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

WeskerWild, on 02 November 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

Thanks for all the replys and now looking into a few other Commando's, dunno if I like the idea of TDK as having your arms removed so you cant defend your self against other lights is pretty bad.

Having great games with my 2D as I really dont mind doing much damage but love being tactical in matchs using my 2 UVA to find the whole team (finding the spots to hide them round corners but stil spot the enemy), Oh and annoying someone and make them chase you round the battle field while the rest of their team gets wiped out!! Best result so far is being chased and keeping 3 enemy mechs busy and still survive when my whole team comes to get um after wiping out the other 9.

losing arms on the TDK happens, but - at that point, you've done your job already most times. personally, I still prefer that 'oompf' the srms on other 'mandos have, but ymmv.

loading up any commando with 2 uavs and 2 arties is hell of fun, running in and out and just enjoying the upcoming chaos. at that point, even I don't care anymore about win or loss and just sit there with a big smile. which brings me to my next point.

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[color=#959595]It can be frustrating when you show your team what they are doing so its easy to counter their moves but they dont and die but thats all part of QP.[/color]


[color=#959595]Considering looking for a IS group to join and do Faction play as a light player but getting much more practice aswell as a few different builds that suit me instead of these Meta builds that I never get on with :/[/color]

by all means: if you like the teamplay aspect, visit 'us' at fw (us being the (now) rather small crowd that enjoys both teamplay and that mode). it is superfun pulling of the stuff you just can't in QP, there, and getting a tough team !and enemy-team! together, enjoying a close and hard fought game, is so much more satisfying than the usual rolls in QP.
...just don't overdo it and bring 4 commandos outside of conquest )

[Chortles]

Commando-2D has the lowest engine cap so you have to be careful when you get caught by enemy lights and are too far away from teammates. The other Commandos can move at 167 with speed tweak.

Commando-1D is currently the best variant because it has better hardpoint locations (2M in CT and 2E in RA) while being the most durable from the armor and structure quirks.

Commando-3A has better missile cooldown than the 1D although its hardpoints are all over the place and for some reason has less survival quirks than the 1D.

Commando-1B and Death's Knell are laser commandos. They don't bring you as much satisfaction as an SRM one. But if you must use one, the 1B's quirk outclasses the TDK while being C-bill mech.

[Shifty McSwift]

Uhhm, not really, but sort of?

[Brizna]

There's one build in CMD 2D that breaks a bit the fame of highly survivable low damage mech CMD has. You just need to realize that you can do with far less than 168kph and other non essential goodies such as ECM, having the slot doesn't force you to use and it will actually save you 1.5Tons, which for 25 T mech is a lot.

Summary:
3xSRM4, 3.5 tons of ammo
XL 200
Ferro+Endo (all critical slots used)
1 point of armor in the head, rest maxed out.

24 Alpha isn't something you can laugh at and with 3.5 tons ammo it lasts enough to be serviceable, attempting to use the ECM will either leave you to with too little ammo or force you reduce alpha.