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[Pariah Devalis]

FupDup, on 06 December 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

Clan LB 20-X is only 9 slots, so yes you actually can.

Also, because of the actuators, it makes that particular placement of LB20X horrifyingly effective against light mechs.

[Grayson Dillinger]

Taking Scorch as a starting point and only loading up to 80 tons I was able to fit the following...

2 LBX20 with 4T ammo
3 SRM6+A with 3T ammo
Full armor with just a few points shaved off to get to 80T
AND a 340XL engine

Granted, can't guarantee that will be the final armor values once it drops, but it still gives a good idea.

Edited by Grayson Dillinger, 06 December 2018 - 02:56 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Grayson Dillinger, on 06 December 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

Taking Scorch as a starting point and only loading up to 80 tons I was able to fit the following...

2 LBX20 with 4T ammo
3 SRM6+A with 3T ammo
Full armor with just a few points shaved off to get to 80T
AND a 340XL engine

Granted, can't guarantee that will be the final armor values once it drops, but it still gives a good idea.

I only have Megameklab, so it limits my engine options. But I got something similar, but with 5 tons of LB20X ammo. Me thinks it would be a fun assault mech, then!

[Jay Leon Hart]

MechDB has the WHM-IIC-A added if you want to tinker

[Edit] I'm thinking of a boring 2x LB20X, 3x MPL build [/Edit]

[Edit2] Maybe 2x UAC10, 2x HLL, 1x ERML ... [/Edit2]

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 06 December 2018 - 04:11 PM.

[Pariah Devalis]

Aw yis:

https://mech.nav-alp...1eb38_WHM-IIC-A

[FupDup]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 December 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

MechDB has the WHM-IIC-A added if you want to tinker

[Edit] I'm thinking of a boring 2x LB20X, 3x MPL build [/Edit]

Man that site updates quick. I'm legit thinking of breaking up with Smurfys.

[Pariah Devalis]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 December 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

[Edit2] Maybe 2x UAC10, 2x HLL, 1x ERML ... [/Edit2]

Why not relocate the arm DHS into the engine? Looks like you have two slots left in there.

Edited by Pariah Devalis, 06 December 2018 - 04:15 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Pariah Devalis, on 06 December 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

Why not relocate the arm DHS into the engine? Looks like you have two slots left in there.

Crit padding (though I'm 90% sure they would be more useful in the engine because non-MG crits are so rare)

[FupDup]

Pariah Devalis, on 06 December 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

Why not relocate the arm DHS into the engine? Looks like you have two slots left in there.

Looks like crit padding.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

Edited by FupDup, 06 December 2018 - 04:17 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

That seems like a very fair custom variant. Not outright superior while adding a ton of value to the non-MC portion of the package. It also leaves the door open for the real WHM IIC-5 to be added later if we survive long enough for another time skip that adds the HAGs and mechs which equip them.

Good showing by Matt and crew.

A cynical salt lord may say this was all according to keikaku and was planned all along.....

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 December 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

MechDB has the WHM-IIC-A added if you want to tinker

[Edit2] Maybe 2x UAC10, 2x HLL, 1x ERML ... [/Edit2]

With the way dual UAC10s bursting will keep the heat generated by the HLL from ever decreasing, I'm not sure the weapon systems ever mix well in a 2 + 2 setup.

You'll end up just firing the UACs when in a slobberknocker, won''t you?

FupDup, on 06 December 2018 - 04:11 PM, said:

Man that site updates quick. I'm legit thinking of breaking up with Smurfys.

Smurfy has been with us so long that I feel connected, but MechDB is seriously feeling like the superior product right now.

Edited by LT. HARDCASE, 06 December 2018 - 05:48 PM.

[Chiasson Brinker]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 December 2018 - 04:04 PM, said:

MechDB has the WHM-IIC-A added if you want to tinker

[Edit] I'm thinking of a boring 2x LB20X, 3x MPL build [/Edit]

[Edit2] Maybe 2x UAC10, 2x HLL, 1x ERML ... [/Edit2]

I like the looks of your LBX variant, but I'd personally shave off a ton or two of ammo for a couple more heatsinks, if only because I doubt that I'd live long enough in a match to use up 6 tons of ammo.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

I'm leaning towards the Scorch Junior build for the WHM-IIC-A with 2xLB20X and 3xSRM6- 3t for the SRMs, 5t for the LB20X, on an XL350. I plan on doing dual LB20X with 4xMPL on the Maul hero, so I can have it both ways. Never been much a fan of Gaussvomit, and UACs are too finicky, so twin fast brawlers it shall be.

[Dee Eight]

Grayson Dillinger, on 06 December 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

Taking Scorch as a starting point and only loading up to 80 tons I was able to fit the following...

2 LBX20 with 4T ammo
3 SRM6+A with 3T ammo
Full armor with just a few points shaved off to get to 80T
AND a 340XL engine

Granted, can't guarantee that will be the final armor values once it drops, but it still gives a good idea.

Not scorch... Boiler... identical # of hardpoints...3 energy, 3 missile, and 2 ballistic. Scorch is 4 missile, 2 energy, 2 ballistic.

3 Streak 6s with 3 tons of ammo, Light Probe, 2 LB10s with 5 tons of ammo, 325XL with 3 extra DHS, Endo, 3 ERML, 460 pts of FF armor, AMS with 1 ton of ammo totals 80 tons.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Aidan Kell, on 06 December 2018 - 08:29 PM, said:

I like the looks of your LBX variant, but I'd personally shave off a ton or two of ammo for a couple more heatsinks, if only because I doubt that I'd live long enough in a match to use up 6 tons of ammo.

It's only 24 shots though, might be enough with 5 tons after ammo skills.

LT. HARDCASE, on 06 December 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

With the way dual UAC10s bursting will keep the heat generated by the HLL from ever decreasing, I'm not sure the weapon systems ever mix well in a 2 + 2 setup.

You'll end up just firing the UACs when in a slobberknocker, won''t you?

Classic UAC10 + LPL didn't seem as good, plus the ranges sync better this way. There's always room for a 3rd build though

[Prototelis]

I'm perfectly happy with this resolution.

In all honesty, I believed we were going to get something along these lines as a bonus based on that tweet. The lackka of dakka was the primary point of criticism of the mechpack.

[Kakia]

FupDup, on 05 December 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

Cockpit items should never, ever alter your combat performance. Outside of quirks, you should have to pay either tonnage and/or slots to get more cowbell in your loadout.

Extra pod space or slots is not possible in a unified construction system, plus this mech will have plenty of both by virtue of being a Clan assault.

Then perhaps the simplest solution would be to give us tournament support pack for 2019 free of charge. That would work for me...

[FupDup]

Kakia, on 08 December 2018 - 04:50 PM, said:

Then perhaps the simplest solution would be to give us tournament support pack for 2019 free of charge. That would work for me...

They already announced a new ballistic-arm variant for people who pre-ordered. That is plenty of compensation.

[CFC Conky]

FupDup, on 08 December 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

They already announced a new ballistic-arm variant for people who pre-ordered. That is plenty of compensation.

Works for me, after all, it is the result of a mistake, not willful corporate malfeasance.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[Kakia]

FupDup, on 08 December 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

They already announced a new ballistic-arm variant for people who pre-ordered. That is plenty of compensation.

I am pleased with the new ballistic arm variant WHM-IIC-A. And I like that the deadline for early adopters has been extended to Dec 31st which will also include the new variant for free. This will give everyone an opportunity to benefit. I think Matt Newman did well in remedying his twitter post.