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[United Jenner Warriors]

C-ER Large Laser HSL +1 for Shadowcat Prime (vanilla chassis quirk/non-set-of-8)

[WrathOfDeadguy]

HBK-4P: +2 standard medium laser.

KGC-000, 000B, 0000: +1 AC20.

Neither is likely to break anything, but it'd add some flavor back to the stock builds that'd make them reasonably viable compared to the alternatives on those 'Mechs (for example, ERML or MPL spam on the Lunchback and AC2 or MRM spam on the Krabs).

[El Bandito]

LL/LPL/PPC HSL increase on different variants of Black Kniggits and Grasshoppers, to differentiate them.

[Battlemaster56]

Super Nova 1 +1ERLL
Personally just want that quirk for it and I be good.

[Alcom Isst]

If every mech had HSL based on its stock loadout.

I had a column for broken yes/no but I felt that was too judgmental.

Variant	HSL Bonus	Currently Have?
JVL-11A	+1 Medium Laser	Yes
PIR-2	+2 Micro Laser	No
ACW-1	+4 SRM 4&6	No
HSN-8P	+2 LRM5	No
HSN-7D2	+1 RL 20	No
HBK-4P	+2 Medium Laser	Yes
HBK-IIC	+1 UAC20	Yes
NVA-Prime	+6 ER Medium Laser	No
UZL-BE	+1 LPPC	No
MAD-BH2	+1 ERPPC	Yes
MDD-A	+2 SRM 6	No
NCT-PRIME	+1 ER Large Laser	Yes
NCT-D	+1 Heavy Large Laser	Yes
TBR-D	+1 SSRM6	No
TNS-HA	+4 RL 10&15	No
TDR-5S-T	+2 Medium Laser	No
ANH-1A	+1 AC/10	No
ANH-1E	+2 PPC	No
ANH-1P	+2 RAC 2&5	No
ANH-MB	+2 PPC +1 SSRM6	No
AWS-8Q	+1 PPC	Yes
AWS-9M	+1 ERPPC	Yes
BAS-Prime	+2 Heavy Medium laser	No
DWF-Prime	+2 ER Large Laser	No
DWF-A	+1 Large Pulse Laser	Yes
EXE-A	+1 Large Pulse Laser	Yes
FNR-6U	+1 UAC/20 +1 LPPC	No
FNR-5E	+1 UAC/20	No
FNR-6R	+2 SNPPC	No
HGN-IIC-A	+1 ERPPC	No
KGC-000	+1 AC/20	No
KGC-0000	+1 AC/20	No
KGC-000B	+1 AC/20	No
KGC-KJ	+2 PPC	No
KDK-1	+2 ER Medium Laser	No
KDK-5	+3 ER Medium Laser	No
MCII-4	+2 ER Large Laser	No
MAD-IIC	+1 ERPPC	No
MAD-IIC-C	+1 Large Pulse Laser	No
NSR-9J	+1 ERPPC	Yes
NSR-9S	+1 UAC/20	No
NSR-WP	+1 SSRM 4&6	No
SNV-1	+4 ER Large Laser	No
SNV-B	+2 Large Pulse Laser	No
SNV-BR	+1 UAC/20	No
WHK-Prime	+2 ERPPC	No

Edited by Alcom Isst, 20 January 2019 - 04:31 PM.

[Nema Nabojiv]

Alcom Isst, on 01 December 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

If every mech had HSL based on its stock loadout.

I had a column for broken yes/no but I felt that was too judgmental.

Pretty much nailed the entire list.

[El Bandito]

Alcom Isst, on 01 December 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

PIR-2 + 2 Micro Laser

Nah, Pir-2 is super strong for its weight right now. Any pilot that is good with Lights can absolutely murder in a Pir-2.

[Alcom Isst]

El Bandito, on 01 December 2018 - 05:01 AM, said:

Nah, Pir-2 is super strong for its weight right now. Any pilot that is good with Lights can absolutely murder in a Pir-2.

Alcom Isst, on 01 December 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

I had a column for broken yes/no but I felt that was too judgmental.

[kapusta11]

Funny how Bounty Hunter can now fire Gauss + 2 ERPPCs without GH and no one even noticed. It's almost as if the loadout was never a problem.

[Subhntr]

Alcom Isst, on 01 December 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

If every mech had HSL based on its stock loadout.

I would like to see this happen (as a set-of-eight for Omnis), with possible exceptions being the WHK-Prime (and other 'Mechs that had to use volley fire) as well as some heroes (as they seem to be more personal refits rather than factory-stock).

[Y E O N N E]

Alcom Isst, on 01 December 2018 - 03:35 AM, said:

I had a column for broken yes/no but I felt that was too judgmental.

PGI did say that the HSL quirk is really only on the table for 'Mechs that would remain hard-pressed to perform as well as the better 'Mechs in the game even when they have such an advantage, i.e. dual AC/20s without ghost is still pretty meh if the convergence is shite (i.e. KGC, making the KGC more likely to actually get this quirk).

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 01 December 2018 - 08:53 AM.

[Raelir]

Battlemaster56, on 01 December 2018 - 03:21 AM, said:

Super Nova 1 +1ERLL
Personally just want that quirk for it and I be good.

Yeah, SNV-1 needs to be able to fire one arm at a time with no ghost heat to earn its own niche and be distinct. Nowadays most of SNV line are just slightly weaker MadCat equivalents.

[Daurock]

Nova: +1 HML set-of-8 for the -s, maybe a +1ERLL set-of-8 for the -A. These would help to allow it to be something other than a bad huntsman, or a small/micro boat most times.

'Hopper, BlKnight, Crab, WLF - Some specific +1LL, +1ERLL, or +1LPL quirk for one or two variants of each. Use the ones with low hardpoint counts, add the quirk, and nerf the armor if needed.

Black Lanner- Somehow find a way to sneak in some +2 erSL, or +1hML. The mech would make a decent enough hit and fade guy if he just a little more punch without slamming into ghost heat.

Thanatos - Some variation of +2 SRM6(or maybe SRM4) for the -5T, +1LL for the -4P, or maybe +1AC20 for the 5S. This guy is just awful across the board, and needs the help.

[Y E O N N E]

Haven't we had this thread, like, two or three times already?

'Mechs that are gimpy and would still be gimpy are the only ones with a chance of receiving the HSL quirk. That means KGCs for AC/20s, NSRs for UAC/20s and PPCs, NCTs for ERLLs.

The SNV is not gimpy even now, and would have ridiculous staying-power when running a power position if it could fire 3+3 without ghost heat. It neither needs nor deserves that buff, and you will hate getting lasered from 1000 meters away without any pause on maps like Grim Plexus.

[Prototelis]

SHADOWCAT

[Y E O N N E]

Prototelis, on 04 December 2018 - 09:39 PM, said:

SHADOWCAT

What's that? Assassins are strong? Better nerf the Shadow Cat!

[Prototelis]

Yeonne Greene, on 04 December 2018 - 09:55 PM, said:

What's that? Assassins are strong? Better nerf the Shadow Cat!

plz, no more. sadcat is so sad.

[Roughneck45]

Direwolves should get a ton of them, for every weapon type. Let them be the massive pile of weapons they deserve to be.

[Battlemaster56]

Yeonne Greene, on 04 December 2018 - 09:30 PM, said:

Haven't we had this thread, like, two or three times already?

'Mechs that are gimpy and would still be gimpy are the only ones with a chance of receiving the HSL quirk. That means KGCs for AC/20s, NSRs for UAC/20s and PPCs, NCTs for ERLLs.

The SNV is not gimpy even now, and would have ridiculous staying-power when running a power position if it could fire 3+3 without ghost heat. It neither needs nor deserves that buff, and you will hate getting lasered from 1000 meters away without any pause on maps like Grim Plexus.

Well I suggest it for the SNV1 and no one really uses that one, it's either the A or the two variants with highmounts.

And even without the 1 hsl erll quirk I still be lasered ppc'd guass'd on open maps so adding the quirk won't change anything on snipe maps.

[ACH75]

I'd like BNC-3E "RAC HSL +1" Quirk