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#21 Tesunie

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:43 AM

View PostChris Lowrey, on 04 January 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

So I see this question come up a bit from time to time regarding why the Mechlab doesn't track the boost to the Artemis spread when you have it equipped.

While others in this thread have correctly stated that the Artemis does indeed provide a boost to the missiles, I wanted to poke in and explain the reason why it is not displayed in the 'Mechlab tool tips and that is because the boost received from Artemis is not a permanent boost, but a conditional one. In order to receive the boost, you must:
  • Have direct LOS to the target (more for LRM's than for SRMs)
  • Not under a "Low signal" state from enemy ECM.
Because the benefits granted by Artemis are conditional, the core SRM spread values on the weapon still remain the same despite having Artemis equipped, but if you meet the conditions to receive the benefits of Artemis in-match, you will gain the boosts provided by the equipment.


The same is true for other equipment that behaves on a conditional level such as Targeting Computers. The benefits of Targeting computers would not be displayed in the 'Mechlab because the targeting computer only boosts the baseline attributes of the equipment while it is functional. If it is destroyed mid-match, the weapons values will utilize the values that are visible in the 'Mechlab.


Q: Why not have a set spread value, and then the "conditional" value in (parenthesis)? Then, it would look like this: 5(4) (or something.)

I'm just wondering, as it seems not intuitive to have benefits, but not have it reflected in the perceived data. I just think it would be easier to explain the two different number sets, as well as easier to understand, if one observes the difference between Artemis missiles and non Artemis missiles, that the non-Artemis has the same set number as the Artemis ones, but the Artemis has a smaller number in parenthesis it should make sense...?

Of course, merely a suggestion.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 09:04 AM

View PostChris Lowrey, on 04 January 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

So I see this question come up a bit from time to time regarding why the Mechlab doesn't track the boost to the Artemis spread when you have it equipped.

While others in this thread have correctly stated that the Artemis does indeed provide a boost to the missiles, I wanted to poke in and explain the reason why it is not displayed in the 'Mechlab tool tips and that is because the boost received from Artemis is not a permanent boost, but a conditional one. In order to receive the boost, you must:
  • Have direct LOS to the target (more for LRM's than for SRMs)
  • Not under a "Low signal" state from enemy ECM.
Because the benefits granted by Artemis are conditional, the core SRM spread values on the weapon still remain the same despite having Artemis equipped, but if you meet the conditions to receive the benefits of Artemis in-match, you will gain the boosts provided by the equipment.


The same is true for other equipment that behaves on a conditional level such as Targeting Computers. The benefits of Targeting computers would not be displayed in the 'Mechlab because the targeting computer only boosts the baseline attributes of the equipment while it is functional. If it is destroyed mid-match, the weapons values will utilize the values that are visible in the 'Mechlab.


Wouldn't it make more sense to show THE ACTUAL BENEFITS OF ARTEMIS because that is its default state while being under ECM is not?
Kind of backwards logic. Should we also then have mechs display values when legged instead of their max speed?





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