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[Ruediger Steiner]

Light Mechs ... huh?

[NocturnalBeast]

dario03, on 23 January 2019 - 07:03 AM, said:

Which mechs?

Stalker and Fafnir are obvious and I don't expect those MECHS to be able to aim that far down, but even Battle Masters and Atlases have trouble also. Like I said, just a short push back to keep lights out from under the legs of larger MECHS, which again is totally unrealistic, unless they are taking massive damage every time the larger MECH moves, would be a fair compromise that would not require nerfing lights, adding knockdowns, or significantly increasing collision damage, in my opinion

Edited by Ed Steele, 23 January 2019 - 08:41 AM.

[Lepestok]

PATCH NOTES - 1.4.193.0 - 22-JAN-2018

2018, Carl!

[Far Reach]

[Redacted]

Edited by draiocht, 23 January 2019 - 06:42 PM.
unconstructive

[dario03]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 08:15 AM, said:

Light Mechs ... huh?

What about em?

[D V Devnull]

Lepestok, on 23 January 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

PATCH NOTES - 1.4.193.0 - 22-JAN-2018

2018, Carl!

Good find... How did they blow the date? I wish I had noticed that sooner. What year does PGI think this is?

~D. V. "Those wacky errors in the minutiae..." Devnull

[Doobix]

gg wp

[Ruediger Steiner]

dario03, on 23 January 2019 - 09:21 AM, said:

What about em?

So useless.

[Lethe Wyvern]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

So useless.

What?

[FallGuy0815]

D V Devnull, on 23 January 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Good find... How did they blow the date? I wish I had noticed that sooner. What year does PGI think this is?

~D. V. "Those wacky errors in the minutiae..." Devnull

It gets better once you start the client:

[D V Devnull]

FallGuy0815, on 23 January 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

It gets better once you start the client:

Roger that... ROFLMDCAO!!! Dang, PGI is going to have real fun Patching that!

~D. V. "Oh, the yearly hiccups! What a chuckle!!!" Devnull

[dario03]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

So useless.

Lethe Wyvern, on 23 January 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

What?

I think he is trying to say that those screenshots prove that lights aren't useless. Which is odd since most haven't said that they are, just that they are not as good as the bigger mechs and don't need hard counters or nerfs but instead buffs. And a few cherry picked screenshots of games with good kill counts and ok damage doesn't really disprove that...

Edited by dario03, 23 January 2019 - 12:02 PM.

[Mechwarrior 37]

InnerSphereNews, on 18 January 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

The following 'Mech chassis have undergone 3060's weapon retrofits:

• Timber Wolf
  
• Stormcrow
  
• Nova
  
• Dire Wolf
  
• Summoner
  
• Adder
  
• Warhawk

</p>

Also don't forget to try out the the Public Test Server which is currently running throughout the Weekend!!

What does the first part mean?

And what is the secret to getting in a match? If it LFG?

[dario03]

Mechwarrior 37, on 23 January 2019 - 12:08 PM, said:

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What does the first part mean?

And what is the secret to getting in a match? If it LFG?

It means there is more cosmetic differences on those mechs when different weapons are put on. So now on those mechs (and others already done before) the newer weapons that came out in the 3060s update will look different. Or in short stuff like ATM launchers now looks different than LRM launchers.

There is no secret to getting in a match. You just have to find a mode that has people playing. Solo quick play usually does, anything else may or may not depending on time and events.

[Ruediger Steiner]

dario03, on 23 January 2019 - 12:02 PM, said:

I think he is trying to say that those screenshots prove that lights aren't useless. Which is odd since most haven't said that they are, just that they are not as good as the bigger mechs and don't need hard counters or nerfs but instead buffs. And a few cherry picked screenshots of games with good kill counts and ok damage doesn't really disprove that...

Those aren´t "a few cherry picked screenshots". Flea and Piranha are badass. That´s the only Flea i bought and i ****** love it! I can play this little ****** all day and give you tons of screenshots like this. Lights don´t need buffs nore do they need nerfs, they just need someone who knows how to use them. If you think a 20t mech with moderate damage doing 6 kills, 3 solo kills, 3 KMDD and only 2 kill assists needs to be buffed you don´t understand the meaning of those data or you are doing it wrong.

[tutzdes]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Lights don´t need buffs nore do they need nerfs, they just need someone who knows how to use them.

I can do the same in some Fleas, K9, TDK, Grinner for instance. Still, the absolute majority of light mechs are not even close to the top performing ones. Light mechs are the ones with the biggest gap between those that perform and those that don't. 90% of lights needs buffs.

Yeah, FLE-17 (or FLE-20) is fine as is (still I can do just as well piloting Cicada or Vulcan). What about Firestarters? Jenners? Panthers? Ravens? Spiders?

It is like to say that "none of the assaults is bad and all of them are fine, no buffs needed, bc the Deathstrike performs well enough for me".

[Xeno Phalcon]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Those aren´t "a few cherry picked screenshots". Flea and Piranha are badass. That´s the only Flea i bought and i ****** love it! I can play this little ****** all day and give you tons of screenshots like this. Lights don´t need buffs nore do they need nerfs, they just need someone who knows how to use them. If you think a 20t mech with moderate damage doing 6 kills, 3 solo kills, 3 KMDD and only 2 kill assists needs to be buffed you don´t understand the meaning of those data or you are doing it wrong.

Hey I have a screenshot like that



the solos/kmdd were lights, as was one of the other killing blows, then two nearly dead smucks I ran across.

[dr3dnought]

Wishmast3r, on 23 January 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Those aren´t "a few cherry picked screenshots".

Yes they are. Your average match score in december was 301. You showed screenshots with 545, 503 and 500 match score.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

dr3dnought, on 23 January 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

Yes they are. Your average match score in december was 301. You showed screenshots with 545, 503 and 500 match score.

No contradiction : He's saying he scores more then his average match score when he's using a light. Not saying he only used lights in December.

[tutzdes]

Humble Dexter, on 23 January 2019 - 01:37 PM, said:

No contradiction : He's saying he scores more then his average match score when he's using a light. Not saying he only used lights in December.

His average score for lights in December was 273, which is even lower.