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[Eatit]

I have seen more cyclops today than I have ever seen.

Some new meta,some new exploit, or just really like the round window? What's up?

[- World Eater -]

They're fun fun fuuuuuuun!

[John Bronco]

Whatever certain streamers are playing tends to propagate out to the community. Lots of cyclops action today.

[Dee Eight]

Because they're the highest ballistic mount IS assaults to boat rac's on, with actual good mobility, to take advantage of the RACRO meta.

[Ssamout]

No worries. As fun is not allowed in this game they gonna get that kodiak treatment soon enough.

[El Bandito]

It is a popular chassis.




Oh and Sleipnir can also abuse the RAC bug.

[OrmsbyGore]

If you've never played a Cyclops, they're pretty fun: lots of hardpoints, fair amount of variety, borderline xl safe for an assault (shhhhh, don't tell anyone I said that), and as a few people pointed out the Sleipnir can take advantage of the RACRO problem (although the 2x gauss, 2x heavy gauss and, to a lesser degree, 4x light gauss builds are somewhat popular)

[Dee Eight]

I have had my CP-11-A built with triple RAC/2s for a few months but until PGI fixes the macro exploit I'm not going to bother using it since it IS possible to trip the increased rate of fire without using the fire control macro if you know how, and I'd like PGI to remove the easymode abuse of doing that first. Not in the mood to be accused of using the macro exploit when the damn fire control macro software isn't even installed on my computer.

[PhilTKaswahl]

Dee Eight, on 31 January 2019 - 01:45 AM, said:

I have had my CP-11-A built with triple RAC/2s for a few months but until PGI fixes the macro exploit I'm not going to bother using it since it IS possible to trip the increased rate of fire without using the fire control macro if you know how, and I'd like PGI to remove the easymode abuse of doing that first. Not in the mood to be accused of using the macro exploit when the damn fire control macro software isn't even installed on my computer.

Same. Had to change it into an LBX + MRM build like the one I'm running on the Kraken to keep using the chassis and earn skill nodes without risking being falsely reported from the mere presence of RACs.

[Antares102]

Two explanations:
CP-S (cyclops hero) with LBX40 is one of the strongest assaults right now because of its high sustained DPS of > 16 and high agility.
Other cyclops especially CP-11-A are run with 3xRAC2 to exploit the RAC bug.

[Dee Eight]

Antares102, on 31 January 2019 - 06:16 AM, said:

Two explanations:
CP-S (cyclops hero) with LBX40 is one of the strongest assaults right now because of its high sustained DPS of > 16 and high agility.
Other cyclops especially CP-11-A are run with 3xRAC2 to exploit the RAC bug.

CP-S with quad RAC/5s... macro also prevents ghost heat quite effectively, and the RAC/5 is the same crit space as an LB10 but weighs 1 ton less.

[RickySpanish]

Dee Eight, on 31 January 2019 - 01:45 AM, said:

I have had my CP-11-A built with triple RAC/2s for a few months but until PGI fixes the macro exploit I'm not going to bother using it since it IS possible to trip the increased rate of fire without using the fire control macro if you know how, and I'd like PGI to remove the easymode abuse of doing that first. Not in the mood to be accused of using the macro exploit when the damn fire control macro software isn't even installed on my computer.

Tripping the wind up mechanics of the RAC is still an exploit though, so I doubt very much that it would be left in-game for those "pro" exploiters to abuse. Remember that macroing isn't considered cheating, yet abusing RACs with the current bug *is*. Ergo, whether or not you use a macro to gain the effects of the bug is a moot point.

[mabo]

RickySpanish, on 31 January 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

... Remember that macroing isn't considered cheating, yet abusing RACs with the current bug *is*.....

Could you link to where PGI has said that?

This topic keeps coming up but in all of the posts I've seen from PGI in response, they just say macros are allowed in the TOS and close the thread.

If you could post the link it would end the debate once and for all.

Edited by mabo, 31 January 2019 - 01:15 PM.

[Ssamout]

searching is so lostech

https://mwomercs.com...34#entry6218534

[mabo]

Ssamout, on 31 January 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

searching is so lostech

https://mwomercs.com...34#entry6218534

Cheers Ssamout.

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Hey guys, we're aware of the RAC issue and the Devs are currently looking into it and we are thankful to the community for reporting the bug.
While the use of Macros are not forbidden, you should not be exploiting bugs as per the CoC states; exploiting game bugs or mechanics to gain any unfair advantages or benefits, either for yourself, your teammates, or players on the opposing team is forbidden.

Yep, that definitely reads (to me anyway) like it's a bug that's being exploited.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Probably because they are a fun and powerful mech.

[OrmsbyGore]

Dee Eight, on 31 January 2019 - 01:45 AM, said:

I have had my CP-11-A built with triple RAC/2s for a few months but until PGI fixes the macro exploit I'm not going to bother using it since it IS possible to trip the increased rate of fire without using the fire control macro if you know how, and I'd like PGI to remove the easymode abuse of doing that first. Not in the mood to be accused of using the macro exploit when the damn fire control macro software isn't even installed on my computer.

I had a marauder that I recently refitted with 3x RAC2s and had a monster match my first time out, like could not believe how effective the build was. Less than 48 hours later I saw Kanajashi's video about the bug/exploit and thought "well, I guess that explains it." Haven't wanted to take that build again, or my urbie K9, since

[Curccu]

OrmsbyGore, on 31 January 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

I had a marauder that I recently refitted with 3x RAC2s and had a monster match my first time out, like could not believe how effective the build was. Less than 48 hours later I saw Kanajashi's video about the bug/exploit and thought "well, I guess that explains it." Haven't wanted to take that build again, or my urbie K9, since

Do you mean you used rapid click macro or you clicked your firebutton every 60ms with a weapon that is normally used by holding down a button? If you didn't, you just used that weapon as intended with it's natural 3x6,55 DPS... And that is effective damage.

So just keep playing your RAC mechs if you enjoy them.
Let ****** players QQ that you cheat, if you don't... take it as a compliment.

[Mavairo]

cause they are fun, and I enjoy the SRM18, 3RAC2s on my cyclops. I played it when I left,and am enjoying it now that I'm back. They feel so agile for an assault even with modest engines installed.

[General Solo]

torso twists like a medium mech