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[eminus]

I just got in from a match where I was watching(dead already) this one teammate who has I think using 4x or 5x Medium laser and 1x LRM 20. what confuses me is that when he fires his LRM 20 he fires in 20 volley.

is that normal?

[Ruccus]

Inner Sphere LRMs fire in a volley, Clan LRMs fire in a stream.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Yes, mechs often have a max 'tube count' which is basically how many missiles per hard point they can spit out at once, this is mostly visible on IS lrm mechs. (misread, if it fired 20 different missiles,was a clan mech lol they spew them out in a lame line.)

Edited by Xeno Phalcon, 01 February 2019 - 05:35 AM.

[HammerMaster]

Ya. The atlas even though it's huge has one launcher with a 10 tube.
So a 20 comes out as 2 rapid 10s.
Whether you like it or not.
I believe the mechlab shows tubes or check smurfy.

[eminus]

nice that explains a lot

[HammerMaster]

eminus, on 01 February 2019 - 05:59 AM, said:

nice that explains a lot

You should have seen the 1 tube Raven lrm silliness.
They fixed that.
Cicada x-5 can have crazy tubes.
Atlas still suffers.

Edited by HammerMaster, 01 February 2019 - 06:08 AM.

[Ruccus]

Ah, I see what he was asking. The "he fires his LRM 20 he fires in 20 volley" sentence made me think he was asking about a single volley of 20 and was more familiar with clans firing in a stream of missiles.

Based on the description I'm guessing the person was running something like a Hunchback 4SP or Wolverine 6K. Both would fit an LRM20 and 5 medium lasers and both have a maximum tube count of 10 on their torso, so an LRM 20 would come out in two pairs of 10.

[HammerMaster]

Ruccus, on 01 February 2019 - 06:34 AM, said:

Ah, I see what he was asking. The "he fires his LRM 20 he fires in 20 volley" sentence made me think he was asking about a single volley of 20 and was more familiar with clans firing in a stream of missiles.

Based on the description I'm guessing the person was running something like a Hunchback 4SP or Wolverine 6K. Both would fit an LRM20 and 5 medium lasers and both have a maximum tube count of 10 on their torso, so an LRM 20 would come out in two pairs of 10.

Precisely.
So a single launcher you MAY WANT TO do this to tighten your spread (if it does. Visually appears so but numbers say no)
With more than one limited launcher you may be triggering ghost heat. ( Can someone test?)

[Luminis]

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 06:07 AM, said:

Atlas still suffers.

People who put LRMs on an Atlas should suffer, though.

[Curccu]

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 06:07 AM, said:

You should have seen the 1 tube Raven lrm silliness.
They fixed that.
Cicada x-5 can have crazy tubes.
Atlas still suffers.

I think X-5 got buffed to 20 tubes each launcher, Victor 9S still has 10, 5 and 2 tube slots

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 06:51 AM, said:

Precisely.
So a single launcher you MAY WANT TO do this to tighten your spread (if it does. Visually appears so but numbers say no)
With more than one limited launcher you may be triggering ghost heat. ( Can someone test?)

Ghost heat trigger is between 1st Click to next Click, If you got more than 3 ERLL / 2 cERLL you can shoot them with just ,5 seconds between and not trigger ghost heat.

[HammerMaster]

Curccu, on 01 February 2019 - 07:39 AM, said:

I think X-5 got buffed to 20 tubes each launcher, Victor 9S still has 10, 5 and 2 tube slots


Ghost heat trigger is between 1st Click to next Click, If you got more than 3 ERLL / 2 cERLL you can shoot them with just ,5 seconds between and not trigger ghost heat.

What is the tic for chainfire?
That's what I was wondering. 2x15 in chainfire with the 2x10 2x5 launch. Sometimes felt like ghost heat creeped in.

[Curccu]

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

What is the tic for chainfire?
That's what I was wondering. 2x15 in chainfire with the 2x10 2x5 launch. Sometimes felt like ghost heat creeped in.

might trigger with some weapons, easy to test. slap LRM20 and 6x LRM5 to cyclops shoot LRM20 1st and then rest with chainfire, should see massive heatspike soon if it triggers.

But I think chainfire tic is that ,5 seconds so it doesn't but PGI... might be possible.

Edited by Curccu, 01 February 2019 - 07:49 AM.

[HammerMaster]

Curccu, on 01 February 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

might trigger with some weapons, easy to test. slap LRM20 and 6x LRM5 to cyclops shoot LRM20 1st and then rest with chainfire, should see massive heatspike soon if it triggers.

But I think chainfire tic is that ,5 seconds so it doesn't but PGI... might be possible.

Ya I felt I was when using 2 lrm15 on an AS7-D in chanfire as it seemed to make the cool down of the 10/5 then 15 sync/unsync.
Can't test. Still off grid.

Edited by HammerMaster, 01 February 2019 - 10:53 AM.

[VonBruinwald]

I miss the Jenners 2-tube CT hardpoint. The sound of a RL15 firing out of that thing was bliss.

[Kubernetes]

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 06:07 AM, said:

You should have seen the 1 tube Raven lrm silliness.
They fixed that.
Cicada x-5 can have crazy tubes.
Atlas still suffers.

I used to run that Raven with SRM4... it was like a snub-nose AC2, just really fun to use.

[Novakaine]

#Tubecountmatters

[Koniving]

eminus, on 01 February 2019 - 05:59 AM, said:

nice that explains a lot

HammerMaster, on 01 February 2019 - 06:07 AM, said:

You should have seen the 1 tube Raven lrm silliness.

LRM-20, 1 tube, Raven... with a bugle.

[Koniving]

2 tubes in use on an X-5.

I miss this... though in today's game, this would be completely worthless.

[Variant1]

They need to add a tube count customization dam it! obviously would be optional, just some of the mechs tube counts look ugly