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[Acersecomic]

Because this looks sooooo hawt <3 and with a nice spread of weapons.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bruin

Awhfhghaslkd I live for mechs like these.

[Nightbird]

Next year

[Bombast]

I doubt the timeline will really advance much further, and if it does it will be in a very selective way (No TSEMP, but maybe cRAC). Jihad era is when the BT/MW fanbase starts resorting to cannibalism and destroying each other, and I don't think PGI wants any part of that.

[MeiSooHaityu]

We are already at the FedCom Civil War, right? That is pretty much the end of the timeline for me anyway. I try to pretend anything after that doesn't exist.

Ok..ok...Soon I will have to warm up to the Jihad...and then...the Dark Ages

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 06 February 2019 - 08:26 AM.

[Acersecomic]

There are so many agressive chicken-leg designs oh my god <3 Almost feels like visiting a pron site.

Bombast, on 06 February 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

I doubt the timeline will really advance much further, and if it does it will be in a very selective way (No TSEMP, but maybe cRAC). Jihad era is when the BT/MW fanbase starts resorting to cannibalism and destroying each other, and I don't think PGI wants any part of that.

MeiSooHaityu, on 06 February 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

We are already at the FedCom Civil War, right? That is pretty much the end of the timeline for me anyway. I try to pretend anything after that doesn't exist.

Ok..ok...Soon I will have to warm up to the Jihad...and then...the Dark Ages

Ok, so... to someone who knows about Battletech stuff only through MW4 and onwards games... talk to me. What's so bad/terrifying about post FedComm Civil War?

[Battlemaster56]

Be nice to advance the timeline a bit further to get new toys to play with. Mechs haven't really thought much bout that.

Just want my HAG's!

[El Bandito]

Too bad the Succession Wars were never fully explored in any MW game.

[Darian DelFord]

Technology limited that back then. But now..............................................

Nuts, forgot PGI is doing it..............................

20 years from now it will be there.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Acersecomic, on 06 February 2019 - 08:37 AM, said:

Ok, so... to someone who knows about Battletech stuff only through MW4 and onwards games... talk to me. What's so bad/terrifying about post FedComm Civil War?

I'm sort of the opposite...I am someone who knows more about the pre-Jihad (3025 to 3067-ish) more than what goes on after, so that is probably why I am a bit off-put by that era. It is just really foreign to me. Also, I have heard that it serves more of a soft reboot to the franchise more than anything (sort of getting back to that 3025 era scarcity during the dark ages). That sort of idea doeasn't really appeal to me as much.

I am sure that the Dark Ages was a good idea in the world of TT (and Clix?) to do this to start selling more goods and to also erase some of the bloat in the franchise when it comes to tech, however story wise it just kind of feels off.

Maybe if I learned more about that part of the lore and played games that taught me and familiarized me with that part of the timeline, I would be more ok with it. PGI's implementation with MWO though would be pretty superficial though, so I don't think that would help much. It would just come across as foreign feeling to me personally.

That is mostly why I just don't care for the timeline much. I don't know much about it, and I feel the sudden regression (although rather BattleTech like I suppose) just felt odd. If there are ever games that take place during this period, ones with good story telling, I may change my opinion.

As it is now though...I just see the FedCom civil war as the end of what I can relate to when it comes to the franchise.

[Bombast]

Acersecomic, on 06 February 2019 - 08:37 AM, said:

Ok, so... to someone who knows about Battletech stuff only through MW4 and onwards games... talk to me. What's so bad/terrifying about post FedComm Civil War?

The quality and sense just decline, in my opinion. Jihad era is the Mariks and the Word of Blake basically waging war against the Inner Sphere with magical production facilities and new (And often bizarre) tech (They bring back LAMs and introduce Super Heavies). The overall idea isn't terrible, but the quantity of *** pulls and overall quality of how it was all done makes it not very good.

Dark Ages is just a colossal mess. They decided they wanted to roll the franchise back to pre-3025 era tech scarcity (Which is fine), but did it in the most heavy handed, inept way possible. Fan favorite units get nuked to death without getting proper send-offs. Important characters that could have easily died of old age instead get assassinated like *******. A new faction is formed to stabilize the Inner Sphere and then is unceremoniously dumped to start another fight. Liao gets it's own Hanse Davion in what is a rightfully deserved chance to be the big dog, and the Federated Suns are punished for being the protagonist for decades by having a First Prince that's a schizophrenic, non-consensual intimacy proponent.

It's just hamfisted and bad.

Edited by Bombast, 06 February 2019 - 09:01 AM.

[Acersecomic]

Ah, so people's issue with Jihad and Dark Ages is more the terrible handling of it.
Well then... I just hope we gets some mechs from those era because my god... sexy...
Did you see the Celestials?! <3

[Bombast]

Acersecomic, on 06 February 2019 - 09:08 AM, said:

Did you see the Celestials?! <3

[MeiSooHaityu]

Exactly! Look at that artwork /\, it's terrible!


It's no where near as good as the older art...

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 06 February 2019 - 09:18 AM.

[Bombast]

MeiSooHaityu, on 06 February 2019 - 09:17 AM, said:

Exactly! Look at that artwork /\, it's terrible!


It's no where near as good as the older art...

Hey, don't knock the SwaggerMech

[Joshua McEvedy]

Acersecomic, on 06 February 2019 - 08:37 AM, said:

Ok, so... to someone who knows about Battletech stuff only through MW4 and onwards games... talk to me. What's so bad/terrifying about post FedComm Civil War?

Very long, very controversial story, but in a nutshell, the franchise owners wanted to do a reboot and also turn the game into clicky-tech, so they:

1) Had the Word of Blake unleash a catastrophic "jihad" for revenge against the IS and Clans using nukes, biological and chemical weapons, terminator "Manei Domini" cyborgs, Celestial series omnimechs, Revenant drones, and concentration camps to wipe out a large chunk of humanity.

2) Many favorite characters were assassinated or unceremoniously killed or disappeared, while a number of well-known units were simply destroyed.

3) The homeworld Clans mostly self-destructed or were abjured during the equally catastrophic "Wars of Reaving."

4) A "Deus-ex-Machina" hero named "Devlin Stone" came out of no where to lead the IS and Clans to victory over the WoB, and then the storyline transitioned into the Dark Ages with Wars of the 'Republic of the Sphere.'

All of this info is on Sarna if you want to read more about it.

[Joshua McEvedy]

I actually like the Celestial series and the concept of Manei Domini cyborg pilots who can plug directly into the omnimechs' computer control systems to give them a terrifyingly mechanical operational appearance.

[Acersecomic]

MeiSooHaityu, on 06 February 2019 - 09:17 AM, said:

Exactly! Look at that artwork /\, it's terrible!


It's no where near as good as the older art...

I think you should add the King Crab to that as well, among many many many others xD

Joshua McEvedy, on 06 February 2019 - 09:26 AM, said:

I actually like the Celestial series and the concept of Manei Domini cyborg pilots who can plug directly into the omnimechs' computer control systems to give them a terrifyingly mechanical operational appearance.

Agreed. It's like the stuff of nightmares, which is kind of fitting for what is almost a cult waging a galactic war.

Edited by Acersecomic, 06 February 2019 - 09:31 AM.

[Prototelis]

Uhg, the secession wars, clan invasion, and civil war era are already full of a lot of convoluted and dumb ****. Jihad and dark ages are like the apex of how not to service an IP.

They say this is like Game of Thrones in space, yeah sure only its like Stephenie Meyer wrote most of it.

The whole IP needs a reboot, or the next mechwarrior needs to exist in an alternate universe written by better authors.

Edited by Prototelis, 06 February 2019 - 09:32 AM.

[Joshua McEvedy]

Acersecomic, on 06 February 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Agreed. It's like the stuff of nightmares, which is kind of fitting for what is almost a cult waging a galactic war.

The Manei Domini terminators were truly scary and I liked them. They took no Clan prisoners.

[Acersecomic]

Joshua McEvedy, on 06 February 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

The Manei Domini terminators were truly scary and I liked them. They took no Clan prisoners.

Dear god, imagine a first-person MechWarrior game with both infantry and mech combat and then running into these fks :|
You're used to general war shoot-em-up, booms and kablooms and then BAM, suddenly these fks show up.
I want to see that. Damn, that's terrifying.
You know, the only thing I was ever afraid on TV when I was a kid was the terminator when it got out of the fire at the end of Terminator 1. Aliens, sharks, Freddy, nothing was scary except for cyborgs and terminator.