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[Grus]

So if 3 mech alpha, put at 70% heat and the take out a mech for example. They have to wait another 4/5 seconds to fire again. All the while the IS is advancing. At an average 60kph.. that aprox 16.6mps so in that time to retire the entire push has moved aprox 70+/- meters. This get compounded over.time obviously.

So laser vomit is mostly out of the question, some pulse builds could work, so the other choise is ballistics. And those things are jamming hard, even after skilltree.

[K O Z A K]

for clan defense take dakka/lbx kodiaks, mk2s, basps and 9pml mad2cs, I honestly think clan vomit isn't that great anymore. And even then it's really for faster mechs that aren't as good defending wave 1

you should see what 12 stacked quad lb10 kodiaks do to IS assaults when you force them to walk in, they don't jam and they can fire for days

[Grus]

Hazeclaw, on 22 March 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

for clan defense take dakka/lbx kodiaks, mk2s, basps and 9pml mad2cs, I honestly think clan vomit isn't that great anymore. And even then it's really for faster mechs that aren't as good defending wave 1

you should see what 12 stacked quad lb10 kodiaks do to IS assaults when you force them to walk in, they don't jam and they can fire for days

No question on the KDK love it. And the BAS with ecm is rocking my socks off (wish it didn't jam all its guns so much but..) problem is after wave 2. If you trade 1 for 1, clan is at a tonnage disadvantage. I do wish clans had a solid 40 tonner but they are a joke. So 3rd wave for a clan player might as well be a crapshoot. 4th leaves with the the pir. You could bring 2 30 tonners but why. Or a mix of lights and get murdered by assassins. Either way, I'd advocate for faster, better maneuvering clan mechs, before more armor.

[K O Z A K]

If you like bas you don't need a 40 tonner. Bas+Bas+50/55 tonner+pir/lynx. You have plenty of good options in clan 50 tonners

If you want the kodiak, you can bring an srm/streak arctic wolf to fight assasins, it works reasonably well

[Grus]

Hazeclaw, on 22 March 2019 - 01:20 PM, said:

If you like bas you don't need a 40 tonner. Bas+Bas+50/55 tonner+pir/lynx. You have plenty of good options in clan 50 tonners

If you want the kodiak, you can bring an srm/streak arctic wolf to fight assasins, it works reasonably well

Artic wolf, I find, falls apart way too easy vs assassins and such. Other than that it's a mixed bag of bad and worse at that tonnage bracket.

[Grus]

And dont get me started on the crap csrm spread...

[K O Z A K]

I dunno, I find the streak acw works well against assassins, and is super easy to use, it boats a shitload of missiles for its size

the srm spread is pretty bad tho

[Grus]

Hazeclaw, on 22 March 2019 - 01:36 PM, said:

the srm spread is pretty bad tho

This, IS srm's might as well be ballistics...

And that new IS mech is gonna be nasty...

But again, clan mechs arnt nimble or fast enough to mitigate the lack of armor/durability.

[Bishop Six]

Hazeclaw, on 22 March 2019 - 06:23 AM, said:

Sounds like you're advocating for clan mechs to get more armour, am I understanding that right? Its the only way they can go toe to toe with IS

I would welcome that if this bring the solution. But i dont think that these people would change their play style when they have more armour, they just would do the same again.

[K O Z A K]

Bishop Six, on 23 March 2019 - 01:24 AM, said:

I would welcome that if this bring the solution. But i dont think that these people would change their play style when they have more armour, they just would do the same again.

[Grus]

Hazeclaw, on 23 March 2019 - 08:16 AM, said:

IS OP plz nerf

[Prototelis]

People still hung up on bucket loyalty are the real cancer ruining this game.

[Bishop Six]

Hazeclaw, on 19 March 2019 - 03:53 AM, said:

Literally every single thing you describe I see IS do as often as clans. You end with a very biased perspective when you mostly play 1 side

Ah i forgot:

I think i am not totally biased and i know the dark side too

https://mwomercs.com...archbishop-six/

[Johnathan Tanner]

Prototelis, on 25 March 2019 - 03:46 PM, said:

People still hung up on bucket loyalty are the real cancer ruining this game.

Lol whut?

[Hellbringer]

Well besides the overwhelming IS armor advantage (which is useful like 100% of the time) there is more "OP" chassis then clans.

Fafnir, 100 tons, ecm, heavy gauss + armor quirks. Yes it moves slow, but when did speed play a factor in FP? if it was a conquest map you wouldnt be running faps anyways.

Assassin, 40 tons and broken *** hitboxes that requires you to constantly shoot at its legs or else spend eons trying to kill its torso.

Commando, see assassin above. Broken *** hit boxes for such a tiny thing.

We dont have such broken mechs, as stated above the laser vom isnt what it used to be, and we are left with dakka or extreme range builds that works on only a few maps.

[Bishop Six]

Hellbringer, on 26 March 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well besides the overwhelming IS armor advantage (which is useful like 100% of the time) there is more "OP" chassis then clans.

Fafnir, 100 tons, ecm, heavy gauss + armor quirks. Yes it moves slow, but when did speed play a factor in FP? if it was a conquest map you wouldnt be running faps anyways.

Assassin, 40 tons and broken *** hitboxes that requires you to constantly shoot at its legs or else spend eons trying to kill its torso.

Commando, see assassin above. Broken *** hit boxes for such a tiny thing.

We dont have such broken mechs, as stated above the laser vom isnt what it used to be, and we are left with dakka or extreme range builds that works on only a few maps.

So and i shall be biased? LOL

Fafnir -> MadCat MK2 + Mad 2c

Assassin -> Arctic Wolf and LINEBACKER??

Commando -> PIRANHA??

So you say there are no good chassis on Clan side?! Maybe you are just bad then.

[Hellbringer]

Bishop Six, on 27 March 2019 - 02:00 AM, said:

So and i shall be biased? LOL

Fafnir -> MadCat MK2 + Mad 2c

Assassin -> Arctic Wolf and LINEBACKER??

Commando -> PIRANHA??

So you say there are no good chassis on Clan side?! Maybe you are just bad then.

when did i say there isnt any good chassis on clan side? if you are going to troll people personally, then maybe you should address the crux of the argument first.

I said IS mechs are more OVERPOWERED than clan mechs. I stated my points above. Given your logic, maybe you just like playing OP mechs that give you a distinct advantage in survivability because you're "bad" at playing mechs that dont have these advantages.

[Prototelis]

Johnathan Tanner, on 26 March 2019 - 02:32 PM, said:

Lol whut?

If you're so hung up on bucket loyalty that playing to the strengths of a techbase is being bad or a coward you are cancer.

[Rustyhammer]

Bishop Six, on 26 March 2019 - 02:08 AM, said:

Ah i forgot:

I think i am not totally biased and i know the dark side too

https://mwomercs.com...archbishop-six/

When was the last time you logged in to that account?
Can't check it atm, but remember seeing it as inactive for 4-5 month when I was cleaning my friends list from inactive entries.

Try to play clans more before posting about coward pug clanners and brave IS heroes. You'll be surprised and confused which side is darker

[Bishop Six]

Rustyhammer, on 27 March 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

When was the last time you logged in to that account?
Can't check it atm, but remember seeing it as inactive for 4-5 month when I was cleaning my friends list from inactive entries.

Try to play clans more before posting about coward pug clanners and brave IS heroes. You'll be surprised and confused which side is darker

True, it is about 4-5 month ago. Ok then i trust you and will try out playing clan side for a certain period again. Maybe i will learn about bad IS behaviour.