44 replies to this topic

[InspectorG]

Drama!

This thread is going somewhere good!

[justcallme A S H]

Vellron2005, on 18 March 2019 - 02:56 PM, said:

Well if I had the video, don't you think I would start off with that?

Real funny..

If you had video this thread wouldn't exist because you'd look at it and realise that you're making things up.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Nah, LRMs do kill light mechs. I've been on both sides of this.

When I first started MWO back in the middle of October last year, I started with the Revenant (stock loadout from the Solaris pack). Got kills on just about everything 'cause I was firing from under 500m away.

Now, since 2 odd weeks ago, I came back to MWO and played several mechs. Got tired of trying to skill my unused mechs like the Mauler, Paralyzer, Nightstar, etc., during the LRM storm. So, I brought back the Revenant last night, put quad LRM 15, 3ERML, a Tag and a Targeting Computer. I run right with my team and stay around 300m away from the enemies. I've killed Locusts and Piranhas. The Tag and TC MK1 help with quick locks and I launch 60 missiles at them in quick succession and they can't dodge 'em, especially when they've come into our lines and are trying to run away. The ~80kph on the Revenant is good to keep at 300m distance and NASCAR all day with the team.

[Novakaine]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 18 March 2019 - 05:10 PM, said:

I can wreck any light mech I see in a match.
But piranha's definitively have invisible lurm shield.
Good work Big G I hate cats.

[Monkey Lover]

If he wasn't moving and you could shoot 10 alpha he must have dc.

Dc mechs do weird stuff as they might not be at the same spot on the server.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 18 March 2019 - 09:17 PM.

[Curccu]

Novakaine, on 18 March 2019 - 08:59 PM, said:

I can wreck any light mech I see in a match.
But piranha's definitively have invisible lurm shield.
Good work Big G I hate cats.

My Piranha/Flea point of view would like to disagree very very strongly.
Nothing more annoying than one of you IDF lurmers throw one alpha away that cannot be dodged and rips half of the leg armor away.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

FRAGTAST1C, on 18 March 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

The Tag and TC MK1 help with quick locks and I launch 60 missiles at them in quick succession and they can't dodge 'em, especially when they've come into our lines and are trying to run away. The ~80kph on the Revenant is good to keep at 300m distance and NASCAR all day with the team.

Nope, TC's don't help with locks for rockits.

[FRAGTAST1C]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 18 March 2019 - 11:10 PM, said:

Nope, TC's don't help with locks for rockits.

Right, it brings up the info faster rather than reduce the lock-on time. I've just been wasting a ton for nothing. I'll put another DHS or just more ammo.

[Snowhawk]

[Bud Crue]

Vellron2005, on 18 March 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

FIX THE PIRANHA PLEASE..

Hmm...

In all honesty one of the more frustrating things for me (because I so rarely get kills in the first place) is when the last couple of mechs are lights running off to stay alive, I give chase, trying to get the occasional fleeting shot on a leg but my QKD or Jester isn’t fast enough and my aim isn’t good enough, and so who ends up with the kill? One of the folks LRMing “my” target from across the map. Happens all the time. Last night alone it happened twice, yesterday at least once. Piranha, Flea and AC respectively. And that’s at mechs running full out, and yet they still get killed by LRMs.

Your anecdote above sounds like the guy was indeed discoed feather than merely afk and the missiles weren’t really hitting where they appeared.

[Racerxintegra2k]

I'm over here like if you are going to troll quickplay with a LRM Fafnir .. 4xLRM 20's with 3300 missiles and no backup weapons is or bust.

[PhoenixFire55]

The6thMessenger, on 18 March 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

Likewise not lurming at 600m with a slow-*** assault?

Here's a thought, bring streaks.

Comeon dude, this is just mean. He is already bad and you are making him worse. How would he do damage from 600m out with those streaks? lol

[PhoenixFire55]

I'll just leave this here ... lol

[Vellron2005]

It's really sad how many people here automatically assume the worst of a person when a Lurmer speaks up.. I told you clearly what happened, and the first thing many of you do is dump on me as a player, assume I don't know what I'm doing, and keep being toxic against LRMs and lurmers in general..

That's just sad, and those people should be ashamed of themselves..

I'm gonna outright ignore such comments because they are worth less than a fart here..

Bud Crue, on 19 March 2019 - 03:53 AM, said:

Hmm...

In all honesty one of the more frustrating things for me (because I so rarely get kills in the first place) is when the last couple of mechs are lights running off to stay alive, I give chase, trying to get the occasional fleeting shot on a leg but my QKD or Jester isn’t fast enough and my aim isn’t good enough, and so who ends up with the kill? One of the folks LRMing “my” target from across the map. Happens all the time. Last night alone it happened twice, yesterday at least once. Piranha, Flea and AC respectively. And that’s at mechs running full out, and yet they still get killed by LRMs.

Your anecdote above sounds like the guy was indeed discoed feather than merely afk and the missiles weren’t really hitting where they appeared.

As one of the people who often kills the last guy from half a map away, I get what your'e saying.. but keep in mind that it often happens that the tables are turned.. I for instance often LRM a target for a long long time, only to have some fast light steal my kill with a 1-2 second burst from it's weapons.. I've learned not to care about that much, cose' it's a Lurmer's job to make the target softer so you don't have to work hard to take that kill.

The fact that you're bringing up the point of "your target" in a team-oriented game is speaking volumes.

Keep in mind that "your kill" is often somebody else's handiwork.. It may even be a LRM boat on the other end of the map getting that KMDD..

P.S. A LRM60 Fafnir is actually one of the better IS LRM boats.. Deal with it.

Edited by Vellron2005, 19 March 2019 - 04:58 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Vellron2005, on 19 March 2019 - 04:57 AM, said:

The fact that you're bringing up the point of "your target" in a team-oriented game is speaking volumes.

Keep in mind that "your kill" is often somebody else's handiwork.. It may even be a LRM boat on the other end of the map getting that KMDD..

Yes, yes, I was trying to be funny/indignant with the “my” target thing (see preceding comment about lack of aim, etc.), but regardless, you’re missing the point; namely that light mechs, including piranhas die to LRMs all the time and what you reported in your OP was not the norm, but rather an exception based on what was likely a discoed mech.

[dario03]

Vellron2005, on 19 March 2019 - 04:57 AM, said:

It's really sad how many people here automatically assume the worst of a person when a Lurmer speaks up.. I told you clearly what happened, and the first thing many of you do is dump on me as a player, assume I don't know what I'm doing, and keep being toxic against LRMs and lurmers in general..

That's just sad, and those people should be ashamed of themselves..

I'm gonna outright ignore such comments because they are worth less than a fart here..

Wait...What kind of responses are you looking for? Was the post just a statement? Or were you wanting to see if other people have seen similar issues? Without video or at least some more details like which server and pings or other instances of this there isn't much anybody could say besides maybe some anecdotal evidence.

In any case my anecdotal evidence says no. Piranhas are not immune to lrms.

Edited by dario03, 19 March 2019 - 05:20 AM.

[Xiphias]

Vellron2005, on 19 March 2019 - 04:57 AM, said:

It's really sad how many people here automatically assume the worst of a person when a Lurmer speaks up.. I told you clearly what happened, and the first thing many of you do is dump on me as a player, assume I don't know what I'm doing, and keep being toxic against LRMs and lurmers in general..

It's more that a lot of people here know who you are and what your post history is and you aren't a reliable source for information. It's less about you running LRMs and more about your constant complaints.

The problem is this, you are calling for some sort of sweeping balance change to Piranhas based on a single anecdotal experience without any evidence to back it up. It also happens to be directly contradictory to a lot of people's experience. If you want people to take you seriously you need to be able to provide evidence to back up your claims, otherwise it's just going to sound like complaining and people aren't going to believe you.

You can't just expect to be considered credible, you need to be able to demonstrate it. Either through having footage, or by being a a person with demonstrated credibility, e.g. proton or someone else from EMP who has demonstrated a thorough understanding and competence at the game.

I'm not saying that you're lying, what you've described could well be the case. However, I also have no reason to believe that you know what you're talking about, and you have no evidence to persuade me.

[Darkstrand]

Fafnir fear Piranha. Fafnir fire many rockits at Piranha far away. Piranha not die while disco. Piranha kill Fafnir because anger. Fafnir make eye water post.

Ug ur bring more rockits next moon and stay away from combat and do again.

[eminus]

everytime I see a lone lurmer assault in my piranha it always ended up like this

[Yondu Udonta]

PIRANHA OP REEEEEEEEEEEE