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[Gas Guzzler]

Think we will ever get them? How should they work?

They could be like RACs.... or burst fire gauss, or burst fire Gauss/lbx hybrid?

I was also thinking that they could take the charge up mechanic and give them some intermediate charge levels. For instance (below values are place holders just to get the concept across):

For HAG 40

0.5 seconds, 1 shot, 10 damage
1 second, 2 shot burst, 20 damage
1.5 seconds, 3 shot burst, 30 damage
2 seconds, 4 shot burst, 40 damage


Or something like that? I don't know, but it would be cool to have something new and interesting like that!

[FupDup]

Clan ballistic MRMs.

[MechaBattler]

I'm in favor of burst fire. I suspect though they probably don't want to add more weapons. Have they even finished retrofitting all the mechs with the new weapon models? lol.

[Nightbird]

I'm guessing like MRMs as well.

Likely won't be considered until the current round of mech retrofits (for civil war weapon models) complete...

[Gas Guzzler]

Ohhhh I like the MRMs idea, obviously with higher velocity.

But would it need to be charged?

[Battlemaster56]

How many more mechs need retrofits, I'm thinking not many unless I'm wrong.

Be nice to start getting new equipment in general help breathe some new life into the mechlab again. Plus HAG's behave more like a ballistic mrm with charage.

[FupDup]

Gas Guzzler, on 02 April 2019 - 10:54 AM, said:

Ohhhh I like the MRMs idea, obviously with higher velocity.

But would it need to be charged?

Charge-up ballistic MRMs would be fine. I guess we can give basically any other Gauss-based weapons (AP Gauss, Magshot, HAG, Silver Bullet, etc.) the charge mechanic as a part of what defines their "Gaussy-ness."

[Gas Guzzler]

Battlemaster56, on 02 April 2019 - 10:56 AM, said:

How many more mechs need retrofits, I'm thinking not many unless I'm wrong.

Be nice to start getting new equipment in general help breathe some new life into the mechlab again. Plus HAG's behave more like a ballistic mrm with charage.

Agreed especially on the Clan side, since all their new stuff basically behaved like old stuff with different stats.

[Valdarion Silarius]

I would imagine it would function similarly to MW:LL's hyper assault gauss rifle, with PGI's goofy charge up time mechanics for all gauss styled weapons. I just wish they would revert the charge up time of gauss rifles, or possibly add something in the skill tree to remove the stupid charge up time at a penalty of a longer cool down duration after shots. I know the common argument is to "git gud and deal with it" when it comes to the charge up mechanic, but it's genuinely the main reason why I don't like running gauss styled weapons because it's just not fun for me anymore. If they added HAG's I'd be in the same boat as before and never run them.

I wish PGI undid it's clan laser nerfs, general PPC nerfs and the gauss rifle charge up time mechanics since I'm growing tired of the ballistic auto cannon meta for quite some time now. On the up side I am enjoying the LRM changes since the LOS mechanic feels fresh to me at least.

[Hellbringer]

Please give me hyper assault gauss rifles just so I can say I'm running hyper assault gauss rifles. The name alone should strike fear in the heart of those Surat IS dogs

[FupDup]

Hellbringer, on 02 April 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

Please give me hyper assault gauss rifles just so I can say I'm running hyper assault gauss rifles. The name alone should strike fear in the heart of those Surat IS dogs

The IS will counter you with the almighty...

BINARY
LASER
CANNON!!!

[Battlemaster56]

We need more weapons like these two.

[FupDup]

Battlemaster56, on 02 April 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

We need more weapons like these two.

Clams:
Hyper-Assault Gauss
AP Gauss
Protomech Autocannons
Chemical Lasers
ER Pulse Lasers
ER Flamer
Heavy Flamer
Plasma Cannons
Mech Mortars

IS:
Magshots
Silver-Bullet Gauss
Light Autocannons
Thumper Artillery Cannon
Bombast Laser
Binary Laser Cannon
Plasma Rifle
ER Flamer
Heavy Flamer
X-Pulse Lasers
Mech Mortars

Edited by FupDup, 02 April 2019 - 01:57 PM.

[MechaBattler]

That's only weapons. Imagine all the other goodies we could have PGI would only put the work in. Still dreaming of small cockpits so I can mount some bigger weapons in the head of my mechs. lol.

[FupDup]

MechaBattler, on 02 April 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

That's only weapons. Imagine all the other goodies we could have PGI would only put the work in. Still dreaming of small cockpits so I can mount some bigger weapons in the head of my mechs. lol.

Unfortunately different cockpit and gyro types would require a full rework of how engines work in MWO because right now gyro and cockpit tonnage is rolled into engine tonnage. They'd have to become separate items and engines would need their weights reduced correspondingly. PGI would also have to make it go your gyro would automatically increase in tonnage as your engine does.

[LordNothing]

i think it should go something like this:

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[LordNothing]

MechaBattler, on 02 April 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

I'm in favor of burst fire. I suspect though they probably don't want to add more weapons. Have they even finished retrofitting all the mechs with the new weapon models? lol.

to be fair they could add almost limitless laser weaponry sence they all use the same hardpoint model. any missile weaponry under 40 tubes is 20 clan (which would cover things like mmls, streak lerms, etc). only the ballistics seem to make good use of the model retrofits. thats assuming they didnt do something while they were in there to ease future retrofits, but thats probibly not the case.

[Alcom Isst]

Gas Guzzler, on 02 April 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

I was also thinking that they could take the charge up mechanic and give them some intermediate charge levels. For instance (below values are place holders just to get the concept across):

I had the same thought, though I can't add new firing mechanics. I ended up creating Gauss rifles with the usual charge, multiple projectiles with a slight spread, and a whole lot of particles.

[MechaBattler]

LordNothing, on 02 April 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

to be fair they could add almost limitless laser weaponry sence they all use the same hardpoint model. any missile weaponry under 40 tubes is 20 clan (which would cover things like mmls, streak lerms, etc). only the ballistics seem to make good use of the model retrofits. thats assuming they didnt do something while they were in there to ease future retrofits, but thats probibly not the case.

I honestly could live with them reusing existing weapon models for most of them. More concerned with the function. I honestly don't usually have the time or inclination to make a visual check of an enemy's weapons.

Alcom Isst, on 02 April 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

I had the same thought, though I can't add new firing mechanics. I ended up creating Gauss rifles with the usual charge, multiple projectiles with a slight spread, and a whole lot of particles.

That looks awesome.

[Athom83]

Alcom Isst, on 02 April 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

I had the same thought, though I can't add new firing mechanics. I ended up creating Gauss rifles with the usual charge, multiple projectiles with a slight spread, and a whole lot of particles.

You sir, have done the world a service!