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#201 Lith Dael

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 08:56 AM

View PostDevils ******, on 09 April 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

With all these with all these reports of Error 63 I bet there are not enough Hockey Fans for a Brad Marchand joke to stick.

Posted Image Posted Image I love that little Elf.


Well, at least we can guess your nationality! Posted Image

#202 LastActionHobbit

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:15 AM

Hey, first time feedback poster here; been enjoying MWO for the past 2-3 years and looking forwards to trying to get stuck into some FP PTS server action tonight and hoping to convince the rest of my team along.

Just to echo a few points made by other's earlier:

-Assuming this PTS is a success then I'd love to see this test go on longer/at a weekend to get more players involved; I'm in the UK right now and there's only 5 people in the queue; it's 6pm and I'm hoping to see enough people for games later on.

-I'd also really really like to echo the points that have been made about PSR levels by others both here and throughout many other forum posts: a matchmaker that used a system based almost primarily on experience does get my heckles up and the current PSR rating does mean that lower skilled players get thrown into matches with higher skilled players; either to the detriment of lower skilled players having the opportunity to win and / or improve by playing folks in their own 'class' or to the detriment of higher skilled players/groups being bought down by folks who can't contribute as much; I sometimes feel this is one of the main contributors to many stomps and am working on trying to collect some data on stomp's that I've experienced via the Jarl's List.

Until I've had some games later this evening I have to ask: given the existence of a website and scoring system like that used by Jarl's, derived - I'd assume - from MWO's own databases; surely average match scores would be the best way for matchmakers to work (after other weightings such as group sizes etc have been iterated)? That's a hole other topic which I'm sure has been had before. Devs: I'm hoping that by highligting that this is the first time I've been moved to give feedback on a topic I feel strongly about that these comments get seen and given a little extra weight. Cheers for the time.

#203 mp00

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:24 AM

The que timer while annoying on the PTS would be a nice addition once a match is set.
A 1-2 minute timer starting, alerting tabbed out players, once the match is set and giving warning time to alter drop decks.

#204 Apollo777

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 09:29 AM

The server has been reset you can login to PTS server now, but I'm not sure you can get a match! i see nobody therePosted Image

#205 SoulRcannon

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:00 AM

I agree with the feedback that elo=/=psr by a wide margin. The new matchmaker as such will be a small improvement at best, unless it is being developed to be compatible with a future redevelopment of the QP tier/psr system. Maybe it is? I may well be being too hopeful in saying this, but there's nothing in what Paul's said here that indicates that that isn't the case.

I definitely feel this needed to have been incentivised a little better. For the time it takes me to sort the PTS out, wait for then complete the 4 drops I'd be a good way to getting those C-bills on the main client if I spent my time on there instead. And the rest is easy enough to obtain as is.

But if a hefty chunk of GXP or skill points were offered then I'd be working on getting the PTS up right now Posted Image

Edited by SoulRcannon, 09 April 2019 - 10:03 AM.


#206 Apollo777

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:06 AM

This is hopeless, waiting 30 min for a match but there are just 2 players from steiner and 5 from marik! And it's prime time, i can't seat for hours waiting for a match, i give upPosted Image

#207 Athom83

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:10 AM

View PostApollo777, on 09 April 2019 - 10:06 AM, said:

This is hopeless, waiting 30 min for a match but there are just 2 players from steiner and 5 from marik! And it's prime time, i can't seat for hours waiting for a match, i give upPosted Image

Prime time doesn't start for a few more hours though...

#208 Blockpirat

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:14 AM

UI bug:

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#209 Apollo777

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

View PostAthom83, on 09 April 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

Prime time doesn't start for a few more hours though...

It's the prime time for EU server.

#210 Hellfire666

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:21 AM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 08 April 2019 - 02:59 PM, said:


Yes.


So the rework is based on the thoroughly broken PSR system? Why even bother then? PSR is nothing more than an XP bar. It's why so many people who don't belong in Tier 1 are in Tier 1. Heck, I don't belong in Tier 1 and yet here I am.

The best part is no one at PGI understands this simple concept even after years of people BEGGING for them to fix it. It's a bad joke at this point.

#211 DAEDALOS513

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:23 AM

Not a good sign when test servers can't even be launched successfully. PGI bite the bullet and hire more people. Otherwise your wasting yours and our time.

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:25 AM

View PostPaul Inouye, on 08 April 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

Elo and Tiers will have to be addressed at a later time. Right now we'd rather see:

Team 1: 12 man
Team 2: 10 man, Elo 3750 player, Elo 3750 player.

Rather than:
Team 1: 12 man
Team 2: 20 man, Elo 900 player, Elo 150 player.


ELO and Tiers should have been addressed 3 years ago!

View PostDAEDALOS513, on 09 April 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

Not a good sign when test servers can't even be launched successfully. PGI bite the bullet and hire more people. Otherwise your wasting yours and our time.


Hiring people won't help - even if it worked right there isn't enough population left to accurately run a PTS. Last PTS I tried to check out and could never get a drop.

#213 MechTech Dragoon

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:25 AM

hop on in boyos

#214 TinFoilHat

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:26 AM

View PostNr1Noob, on 09 April 2019 - 03:38 AM, said:

I just turned the in-game master volume all the way down. Guess what no more bloody beep beep ******* beep!

That has to go fast as I do not want to keep going into the settings to adjust the volume. Soon it be a case of either the beep goes or the players do.


Menu -> Audio

Disable Front End Sounds - enjoy buzzer free waiting

#215 DAEDALOS513

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:30 AM

View PostHellfire666, on 09 April 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:


ELO and Tiers should have been addressed 3 years ago!

Hiring people won't help - even if it worked right there isn't enough population left to accurately run a PTS. Last PTS I tried to check out and could never get a drop.

Screw the non-functional PTS.. that's just a sign.. the writing on the wall so to speak. IMHO Lack of employees has been the root cause of nothing getting fixed around here since the announcement of MW5.

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 09 April 2019 - 10:30 AM.


#216 MarsThunder

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:34 AM

> 4PM PDT
We don't know what is "4PM PDT". And don't want to know it. You (PGI) were told this a zillion times.
Is it so difficult to specify UTC/GMT time in addition?!

#217 Paul Inouye

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:04 AM

Some metrics for you so far:

- Match Maker is actually doing what it's supposed to do until there's a switch between phases. During the phase switch is when some weird stuff happens and there's a 2-5 minute period where it just goes completely sideways and that's when you see the Error 63 outlined in the OP of this thread.

- 51 Scouting matches kicked off and gave a result.
- 2 Incursion matches have kicked off. It's understood and fully expected that this would happen with PTS participation numbers during a week day.
- I've had all players who have participated in those 53 matches get a 1M CB injection into their live accounts as I type this as a per-emptive thanks for grueling through the wait.

We are going to leave the PTS up as is for now... when it comes down on Thursday, I'm going to see if I can get a few extra fixes into the build (story scroll for example) and see if we can get PTS running again on Friday with shorter phase windows. I'll update again here when I get answers from engineering.

#218 Ch_R0me

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:10 AM

View PostDavegt27, on 09 April 2019 - 08:17 AM, said:

before you guys got the error code 63 did you notice the servers status ?

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I've noticed. But I didn't managed to launch, just because I didn't had a possibility to do so.

#219 Javin

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:41 AM

Going to try this out tonight.

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Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:49 AM

This is a good start. But that is all it is...... a start. Waiting times are painful for games. 30 min +. This cannot test the match maker in any way shape or form. When que hits 12/12 game just launches. so....... how is it filtering players and groups and what not? Also I noticed earlier 7 in que and it said 4 other groups in que. Does that mean that the single guy was considered as a group? Lastly WHY on gods green earth would you have scouting and Incursion as two game modes? Why not just make it perfect and bring back escort for the 3rd phase? Seriously. I know this is just a PTS but why not have the popular game modes in there?





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