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#21 Athom83

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 04:10 AM

Just played my Enforcer and Wolverine for a while. Lol it was fun. People don't expect the 90 KPH 55 tonner with all the MPLs nor the JJ medium with all the MLs and a RAC.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 04:28 AM

View PostVitriolicViolet, on 11 April 2019 - 01:33 AM, said:

yeah the Highlander is fun to bust out, 150+ CT armor is good.

And you can do some nasty builds on them now.
HGN-733 with 4x ASRM6, 1x AC10, 2x LPPC, 325 LFE.
HGN-733P with 2x HPPC, 2x MRM10, 1x MRM20, 325 LFE


Try double RAC2, triple ML and MRM40 on 732B.
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I tried with RAC2 and RAC5 with MRM30, but having a rac2/5 mix creates sooooo much heat compared to double 2 that it is just not worth it, resulting in less damage overall.
I find a lot of success and sustain with this, give it a try if you will ;)

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 08:37 AM

View PostAcersecomic, on 11 April 2019 - 04:28 AM, said:

Try double RAC2, triple ML and MRM40 on 732B.
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I tried with RAC2 and RAC5 with MRM30, but having a rac2/5 mix creates sooooo much heat compared to double 2 that it is just not worth it, resulting in less damage overall.
I find a lot of success and sustain with this, give it a try if you will Posted Image


Well then, I may have to buy a 732B. I've been Highlander-less for a few years now but I remember loving them (especially with 2xPPCs and an AC20) when jumpjets were jumpier.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 08:51 AM

View PostAthom83, on 11 April 2019 - 04:10 AM, said:

Just played my Enforcer and Wolverine for a while. Lol it was fun. People don't expect the 90 KPH 55 tonner with all the MPLs nor the JJ medium with all the MLs and a RAC.

Wolverine is an awesome mech.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:17 AM

View PostN a p e s, on 11 April 2019 - 08:37 AM, said:


Well then, I may have to buy a 732B. I've been Highlander-less for a few years now but I remember loving them (especially with 2xPPCs and an AC20) when jumpjets were jumpier.


Just remember that you cannot fit an AC20 on the 732B due to upper+lower arm actuators.
Victor however can do that since it has lower+upper on one arm only, allowing for full movement on both hands.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:01 AM

there are a lot of mechs i loved from previous mechwarrior games, but they came out too early and ended up at the bottom of the power creep well. i would love for them to bring in new variants of old mechs that are competitive with the current metas.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:21 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 11 April 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

there are a lot of mechs i loved from previous mechwarrior games, but they came out too early and ended up at the bottom of the power creep well. i would love for them to bring in new variants of old mechs that are competitive with the current metas.


What mechs are you referring to? I'm just curious

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:24 AM

View PostAthom83, on 09 April 2019 - 08:55 AM, said:

Bringing out my Victor and Highlander and surprising people by jumping over obstacles and buildings to unload a large alpha ((U)AC/20s, SRMas, and SnPPCs) right into them from above. Someotimes in a brawl I'll just jump right over them and unload into their backs. Its almost like some people don't really comprehend that assaults can jump too.

i love it when a assult jump's , mean you got a fight on your hand's an the fun on , keep up the good work .

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:37 AM

View PostN a p e s, on 11 April 2019 - 10:21 AM, said:


What mechs are you referring to? I'm just curious


catapults, ravens, jenners, mechs like that. the jenner iic for example that i used a lot in mechwarrior 2 is just something that gets instagibbed or outright legged under the current scale and hitboxen. it was fun when it was new but its not in a good place now. the summoners lost a lot of mobility in favor of st lasers and more laser boating. the new catapult variant thats coming out next month will probably be a nice change of pace, but i doubt its going to be a game changer.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:38 AM

just got one ? what happen to the erbe -r it had a -2.5 engine. i mean like what's that an when i went to up grade i was over weight . so i could not up grade , it's if it has to so slow then give some armer , love the 30 mrm 40 would been better . if you take off the 30 you'll never get it back . i like the little guy but now he just to slow , to low on protection give the mech a break ,if he goes slow , may be 3 lasers ams that don't over heat an 40 mrms that be fair an fun , an show what a -2.5 engine looks like. if make this one i'll buy it , like the little guy.

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:52 AM

Im going through a retro-mech hipster phase myself.

Wubacada usually treats me well.

HBK-P is being slept on a little in Solo, i think. You can get some free trades with that hunch vs Potatoes and ghetto ECM helps as well.

Im eyeing the Griffin 2N.

MRM+Wub Stalkers can sandblast.

Spiders, i love them.

Locusts too.

400LT Banshee needs a look as well. Maybe Wubs?

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:57 AM

View Postarther, on 11 April 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

just got one ? what happen to the erbe -r it had a -2.5 engine. i mean like what's that an when i went to up grade i was over weight . so i could not up grade , it's if it has to so slow then give some armer , love the 30 mrm 40 would been better . if you take off the 30 you'll never get it back . i like the little guy but now he just to slow , to low on protection give the mech a break ,if he goes slow , may be 3 lasers ams that don't over heat an 40 mrms that be fair an fun , an show what a -2.5 engine looks like. if make this one i'll buy it , like the little guy.

I play my R63 with a 180 standard engine with 3 MPL and 3 LMG with max JJs. Lots of fun and very durable on top of being lightning quick. Similar build on my Street Cleaner, but with a LFE 210 and ERMLs. Would love it if there was some sort of oneshot ballistics that mimic the RLs, like a recoiless rifle or something (which technically does exist as a crew service weapon).

#33 PhoenixFire55

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 03:50 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 11 April 2019 - 10:37 AM, said:

catapults, ravens, jenners, mechs like that. the jenner iic for example that i used a lot in mechwarrior 2 is just something that gets instagibbed or outright legged under the current scale and hitboxen. it was fun when it was new but its not in a good place now. the summoners lost a lot of mobility in favor of st lasers and more laser boating. the new catapult variant thats coming out next month will probably be a nice change of pace, but i doubt its going to be a game changer.

Catapult has been buffed immensly by the rescale fkup tho. It is tiny for 65t, which makes it a very strong mech in combination with mobility and being XL-friendly. Mobility is key if you want to make it work.

Raven is still in the same spot its been since forever. Rather good when nobody sees it and utterly horrible when someone does. Still good for peek-a-boo, still bad for brawling, but then again it was never meant to be a brawl mech.

Jenner has indeed been fked up royally twice, with resize first and then addiotional idiotic transfer of armor from arms to side torsoes. Still feels incredibly nimble and remains one of the best mechs for 'kiting'. Just don't expect it to brawl.

Summoner with dual ERPPCs or dual UAC10s remains one of the best mechs in current state of the game. If highest tier comp teams use them it kinda says something.

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 07:12 AM

View PostAcersecomic, on 11 April 2019 - 09:17 AM, said:

Just remember that you cannot fit an AC20 on the 732B due to upper+lower arm actuators.
Victor however can do that since it has lower+upper on one arm only, allowing for full movement on both hands.
733C can do AC20 in arm, although the Victor is still better for that.

View Postarther, on 11 April 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

what happen to the erbe -r it had a -2.5 engine. i mean like what's that an when i went to up grade i was over weight .
Urbanmech is the only mech with an engine that low, and it's not a benefit because Urbies with that engine have to fit eight heat sinks externally - meaning that in practice that engine and heat sinks use up 5.5 tons combined.

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so i could not up grade ,
Yes, you could... remove the weapons, install Endosteel and/or Ferro/Light Ferro, then start putting it back together beginning with the engine.

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if he goes slow , may be 3 lasers ams that don't over heat an 40 mrms that be fair an fun , an show what a -2.5 engine looks like. if make this one i'll buy it , like the little guy.
Laser AMS that doesn't produce heat would absolutely not be "fair and fun". And again, the only reason STD60 is displayed with a negative tonnage is because PGI subtracts the tonnage of any mandatory heat sinks that cannot fit into the engine from the engine's tonnage.

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:44 PM

The LRM nerf/buff cycle made my old standby Catapult A1 relevant again, at least for me. Not all Cat A1s are boating LRM5, but some folks don’t realize that :)

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 03:52 PM

yeah ive tried the 732B build before, i run rac2/rac5, triple ML, MRM30 and RL20, just cool enough and bores holes in whatever it stares at. plus the RL20 in the arm hammers lights

the 732 has some good ones too.
HGN-732: 1x Gauss rifle, 3x MPLs, 3x ASRM6 LFE 325.
HGN-733C: 1x AC20, MRM 50, 2x MLs, LFE 325
HVY-MTL: RAC5, RAC2, 3x MPL, 2x MRM10 , LFE 330 or LB10, 3x MPL, 2x MRM10 , LFE 330, 5x JJ


Cataphracts are good as well, huge armor with skilltree. the loyalty variant can hit 105 kph using MASC, an AC20 and 4 MLs at 84-105 KPH is fun

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 06:10 PM

Catapult K2 with 4 ERMLs and 2 RAC2s is bae.

#38 BrunoSSace

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:15 AM

I love me some hunchback 4G Ac20 derp and I'm know for running a Rac 5 Raven. I even enjoy derping around in a dual ppc panther.
Meta is shzt...

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:29 AM

View PostFupDup, on 12 April 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

Catapult K2 with 4 ERMLs and 2 RAC2s is bae.
try double AC10 and 4 ML, cool, pinpoint, effective ;)

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:37 AM

View PostChados, on 12 April 2019 - 02:44 PM, said:

The LRM nerf/buff cycle made my old standby Catapult A1 relevant again, at least for me. Not all Cat A1s are boating LRM5, but some folks don’t realize that Posted Image

I'm boating SRM6 . Brutal.





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