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[Monkey Lover]

Dee Eight, on 12 April 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

What difference does that make ? Even when you provide video evidence to PGI of someone repeatedly using the derogatory usage of the N and F words on voip, all they do is suspend repeat offenders.

These few people are getting auto banned and making new accounts few minutes later. Atleast now they will not be able to yell over the coms on these new accounts.

[The6thMessenger]

Feral Clown, on 12 April 2019 - 10:28 PM, said:

Nothing, but it will limit the john wayne accounts from dropping nbombs all over the place...for 25 games. So I guess people will get to enjoy their teamkilling allies in silence...for 25 games. Obviously this is a genius fix and I imagine there is two elated people giggling at the impact and attention they're getting and the absurd changes to address them. PGI is not winning here.

Wow, people are so weak, they're hurt so damn bad by some n-bombs.

Even then, there's such a thing as a mute button.

[Feral Clown]

The6thMessenger, on 12 April 2019 - 10:31 PM, said:

Wow, people are so weak, they're hurt so damn bad by some n-bombs.

Even then, there's such a thing as a mute button.

I personally can't stomach the word and no one says it around me unless they are black. But in an online game? I expect ignorance and this overt silliness and over the top childish attention seeking behaviour is not something I get razzled over. However I would absolutely appreciate if PGI fixed their block feature so that people on that list were permanently muted. Right now it mutes them when you block them, then you have to manually mute them every other time you run into them. This makes no sense, and one of the reasons I disable in game voip.

[The6thMessenger]

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Feral Clown, on 12 April 2019 - 10:38 PM, said:

But in an online game? I expect ignorance and this overt silliness and over the top childish attention seeking behaviour is not something I get razzled over. However I would absolutely appreciate if PGI fixed their block feature so that people on that list were permanently muted. Right now it mutes them when you block them, then you have to manually mute them every other time you run into them. This makes no sense, and one of the reasons I disable in game voip.

It's a nice addition, but to whine about manual muting is just laziness.

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[Feral Clown]

The6thMessenger, on 12 April 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

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It's a nice addition, but to whine about manual muting is just laziness.

What? Whining, no it is pointing out that the mechanics are broken especially considering how many people need muting. It's just common sense that if they are on the block list, and it automatically mutes them the first time, they should remain muted as long as they are on the list. Think this over a bit, blocking them permanently disables you seeing their chat messages, so why on earth would it not follow it permanently mute them. Perhaps it is your logic and thinking that is lazy here.

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[MisterSomaru]

welp. time to get the popcorn and bomb shelters, because this thread is getting nuked.

[crazytimes]

I neither make new accounts, nor reside in a tier likely to see new accounts, so this affects me not in the slightest.

If you've played more than a few hundred games and still regularly see brand new players... I don't think the ocassional silent player is really going to affect your personal outcomes.

[Feral Clown]

The6thMessenger, on 13 April 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

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LOL.

Real simple, if it mutes them the first time and permanently 'mutes' their chat, it really should follow that they are permanently muted. Let's not forget when you block them the first time....it mutes them as well. Think that through and think why you would have a block that only does the full job once, and half the job the rest of the time. [Redacted]

And choose to ignore.... yawn. You forget I also mentioned I actually disabled voip which is my choice to not hear the vast majority of nonsense which pollutes comms.

So enjoy responding as this will be my last response given [Redacted]

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[The6thMessenger]

Feral Clown, on 13 April 2019 - 01:31 AM, said:

Real simple, if it mutes them the first time and permanently 'mutes' their chat, it really should follow that they are permanently muted. Let's not forget when you block them the first time....it mutes them as well. Think that through and think why you would have a block that only does the full job once, and half the job the rest of the time.

Why we would have a block that does half-assed job? Well obviously because PGI is just that bad. Don't get me wrong, I really don't have a dog in this fight, I ain't defending PGI's poor track-record. By all means, it should mute blocked people automatically on the virtue that it's simply better.

Tell you what, my bad. I read some of your messages in a rush and in a jumble till I re read it, I actually missed that automatic muting, so I apologize on that "common-sense" bit.

Feral Clown, on 13 April 2019 - 01:31 AM, said:

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LOL, funny when all you did is an assertion you just backed up by basically "think about it", and quite simply just repeating it. I am not defending PGI's bad decisions, I thought i was just explaining it to you.

Don't get me wrong, I still admit the parts that I miss, but you're not actually arguing something substantial just because it's inconsistent. Could have either been an oversight, or just a feature, I don't know what goes through PGI's head. If you argue just simply for consistency, we could also have it the other way around and remove the automatic-muting the first time and it would still be consistent.

Feral Clown, on 13 April 2019 - 01:31 AM, said:

And choose to ignore.... yawn. You forget I also mentioned I actually disabled voip which is my choice to not hear the vast majority of nonsense which pollutes comms.

So there you go, why is this an issue anyways? You already did the muting, what else is the problem?

I could understand your confusion about my stance, let me clarify. There are various of reasons that a person could be muted, he could be just toxic that one time, or just a generally toxic player that's yelling and distracting and damaging to the eardrums, or he just has his volume set too loud. Muting and blocking isn't the same.

I'm sorry that I couldn't make it clear enough, but I meant "Manual Muting" in a general sense, relating to PGi's automatic VoiP ban of Cadets.

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[Kroete]

Freedom of speech means that everyone can say what he wants,
even if its the n-word, but it also means you can say that he is a stupid inbred racist.
Its like democracy, suffrage for everyone means even the dumbest has it too.
Thats the price we have to pay for this!

Some more people should read 1984 and then maybe read about how amozon deleted Orwells books (like 1984) from the kindle of the owners. Who own words and who controls what words we can use?
You cant talk about revolution if you dont know what revolution means (free quote from 1984).

We are throwing away the insights of the age of enlightenment and celebrate it ...
Wellcome to the age of the orange clown!

[The6thMessenger]

Kroete, on 13 April 2019 - 03:22 AM, said:

Freedom of speech means that everyone can say what he wants,
even if its the n-word, but it also means you can say that he is a stupid inbred racist.
Its like democracy, suffrage for everyone means even the dumbest has it too.
Thats the price we have to pay for this!

Some more people should read 1984 and then maybe read about how amozon deleted Orwells books (like 1984) from the kindle of the owners. Who own words and who controls what words we can use?
You cant talk about revolution if you dont know what revolution means (free quote from 1984).

We are throwing away the insights of the age of enlightenment and celebrate it ...
Wellcome to the age of the orange clown!

I agree.

Censorship isn't something we should be condoning in politics, in fact, screw every thin-skinned SJWs out there that platforms and labels people haters, racists, sexists, and {Godwin's Law}, just because people disagreed with them, and try to dismiss them rather than to discuss with them.

Buuut, freedom of speech is basically just freedom from the government, as well as protection of speech in public spaces, and so private companies, such as PGI do have the liberty.

I agree with the sentiment though, we got too much thin-skinned ******* everywhere apparently.

[Horseman]

Kroete, on 13 April 2019 - 03:22 AM, said:

Some more people should read 1984 and then maybe read about how amozon deleted Orwells books (like 1984) from the kindle of the owners. Who own words and who controls what words we can use?
You cant talk about revolution if you dont know what revolution means (free quote from 1984).

That had nothing to do with censorship and everything to do with the fact that the publisher who put them up did not have the right to do so, making Amazon complicit in piracy. They have subsequently offered the affected users a legal copy of the book and changed their policy on remote deletions - see https://arstechnica....984-settlement/

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[Prototelis]

1. You don't have freedom of speech anywhere on the internet.
2. dat was racist.

[draiocht]

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