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#81 Vxheous

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:24 AM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 15 May 2019 - 01:12 AM, said:


Do you know "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result"?

Well, stats is the one that tells you whether it's insanity or not. So yeah it's pretty important, if you are trying to figure out something, which is important if we're looking at how things are balanced in a game.

View PostBurning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

no stats in this game are based off a broken math formulation

statically I "suck" but especially you messenger.. we have played enough rounds together for you to see me be able to do 900 damage and multiply kills in a locust.. Or me get 12 damage and be out in 15 seconds


the stats dont account for the years of disconnect problems.. Or crash to desktop.. OR the months inbetween hotfix's when thing where broken... you cant statistically analyze something when the math formulation your using is incomplete : anyone who has been here since day one knows.. (and there are not that many of us left)

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 15 May 2019 - 03:53 AM, said:

So now it's disconnections, crashes and the latest addition is drunk.

L
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And I'd be a better player is I stopped calling a spade a spade? It's because I have that view and could look at myself and admit I needed work, took on that feedback and made it happen - that I'm at the level I'm at. I don't live in some land of make believe you seem to be in permanently.


Guys....you can't argue with someone that suffers from the dunning-kruger effect.

#82 thievingmagpi

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 07:35 AM

I'm learning so much from this thread.


1) bads can do better, it's just disconnects and inebriation holding them back

2) Ash doesn't have fun

What else did I miss?

#83 justcallme A S H

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 12:25 PM

I think you've got it about right.

Praise be the word of Burning2nd?

#84 Alienized

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 01:06 PM

Posted Imageonly 3 kmdd and 22 team damage.
giggedy.
all hail the arty strikes and enemy teams that are bad enuff to all stand around at the same spot.

but bad teams are just so common atm Posted Image

#85 The6thMessenger

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 02:43 PM

View PostHenryFA, on 15 May 2019 - 05:21 AM, said:

Second live 1v1, let's go!

Dont get drunk tho

Prove us that you're actually good LMAO


I had two games with him yesterday, that he's childishly up on my face with what I said on the forum, how because I'm better than him that I should have won -- obviously not how stats work, but in those two games I'm actually doing better than him.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 15 May 2019 - 02:44 PM.


#86 justcallme A S H

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 03:00 PM

A sad little man, no doubt.

#87 The6thMessenger

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 03:15 PM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 15 May 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

A sad little man, no doubt.


I know right? I mean keep to the forums, and not bleed to the game.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 04:00 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 15 May 2019 - 03:15 PM, said:


I know right? I mean keep to the forums, and not bleed to the game.


Claims to be a good player, having bad stat due to bad team and bad connection

Community offer him a chance to prove that he is "good"

Gets into a 1vs1 showdown, claims to be "drunk af" and "having fun"

turned into a punching bag

Lost all the 1vs1, proved nothing

"I am still better than you"

Where the f he finds all those courage?

Edited by HenryFA, 15 May 2019 - 04:01 PM.


#89 The6thMessenger

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 04:02 PM

View PostHenryFA, on 15 May 2019 - 04:00 PM, said:

Where the f he finds all those courage?


Have you heard nothing? Obviously he's drunk. Lol. :P

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 04:11 PM

View PostThe6thMessenger, on 15 May 2019 - 04:02 PM, said:


Have you heard nothing? Obviously he's drunk. Lol. :P


Huh, alcohol is that powerful?

Too bad I'm allergic to alcohol, can't get drunk and see if that is true lol

#91 The6thMessenger

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 04:20 PM

View PostHenryFA, on 15 May 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Huh, alcohol is that powerful?

Too bad I'm allergic to alcohol, can't get drunk and see if that is true lol


Well, I'm allergic to bull ****, but we have to make do.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 15 May 2019 - 04:25 PM.


#92 Kubernetes

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 04:56 PM

I just went back to that thread for laughs. Did I somehow miss the drunkenness excuse? He didn't say he was drunk then.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 01:26 AM

View Postjustcallme A S H, on 12 May 2019 - 07:29 PM, said:


META only? Come on... I've run XL Atlas, MPL Black Knights - even Brawler AC20/Snub Corsairs with no heatsinks...

None of these things are META and not one of them would make it into a Top Tier META List. They are suitable for less maps than they are suited for & I still still crank out 1000dmg games with 2-4 kills on something like Polar. Hell I've produced so many 1000k games on Polar in Brawlers it makes me wonder exactly how that's even possible.

I play all server times aside from peak EU as I really cannot stand the playstyle. I wouldn't say any timezone is better or worse than another though. I see EmP / 228 and many other high level comp players and notable players in NA Peak/Off Peak and Oceanic Peak/Off Peak. Some matches you get rolled with 200 match score no matter what one does. Others you spew out a out a 1500dmg domination/carry with 700 match score and thus - you have a 400+ average over a season - no matter the players on either side.

You can watch me on stream - I am aiming CT or open torsos, weak points on mechs wherever possible to affect a win. That is what good players do and you get the numbers to back it up. There is no deliberate farming. If I was - I would be sticking AMS on every mech I could etc.

The whole "The top tier just farm score" is mostly unfounded. ESP when you can watch a number of Top Tier live on twitch and they are doing none of what is farming. Winning is always the priority.

Yes you are right. You will allways have a 1000+ dmg high matchscore game with most mechs. But how often is that happen ing compared to a meta mech+build? You allways have the outliners but don`t sell them as the norm. I had my first 1000+dmg match (after to sidetorso distruction gives no more arm dmg bonus change) on polar with a brawler. Does that mean i should vote for polar everytime i field a brawler? If it would be only skill why care about meta, builds, consumables or anything but skill. Why even bother with grimmechs if it is only skill? I hope you know that your statement "its just skills" is a bit offside to your in general indept knowledge of the game.
I bet your viewers could come up with a list of "excellent" mechs +builds without consumables to drop your avarage matchscore in your streams no matter your skills. You can try it if you like to prove the obvious, but it would be a waste of your stream time. Even though it would be funnier than ever to watch your temper going wild game after game and the smile when you finaly cracked the 500 match score with a 2sl Spider...

I was not refering to you or any one specific. Assuming that all top tier players farm match score is complete nonsense. But that doesn`t mean that a lot of top players do not care about their ranking/avarage matchscore and choose their actions accordingly. Thats why they are in the top bracket in the first place. Why seal clubbing, to an extent sync dropping and all the effort if it makes no difference? Why do so many top players use the team as meatshields in QP and not leading the push if it is all only about winning?

I know that you are not a dedicated match score farmer on your streams because since i heard your commentary in tournaments i check out your stream from time to time. I really enjoy watching you play! Great combination of skill and an entertaining sense of humour. Keep it up!

Edited by Tiewolf, 17 May 2019 - 01:44 AM.






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