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[Saber Avalon]

Vellron2005, on 13 May 2019 - 11:49 PM, said:

I know I'm a little late on this but I got one word for you..

AMS.

That's technically three words....

Had AMS on my MCII-B not on the Scorch, doesn't fit. Nor should that have mattered considering what was done in that match.

Others have already confirmed for me though, you basically NEED over 800dmg to get 500ms. Anything less makes you just shy.

[The6thMessenger]

Saber Avalon, on 14 May 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

That's technically three words....

Had AMS on my MCII-B not on the Scorch, doesn't fit. Nor should that have mattered considering what was done in that match.

Others have already confirmed for me though, you basically NEED over 800dmg to get 500ms. Anything less makes you just shy.

I managed to put 2x UAC5 + 2x UAC10 + LAMS + 10t Ammo + 6 DHS, you got 2025 total damage out of that 10 tons worth of ammo.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 14 May 2019 - 02:59 PM.

[Acersecomic]

Saber Avalon, on 14 May 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

That's technically three words....

Had AMS on my MCII-B not on the Scorch, doesn't fit. Nor should that have mattered considering what was done in that match.

Others have already confirmed for me though, you basically NEED over 800dmg to get 500ms. Anything less makes you just shy.

MCII-B
Here you go, x2 UAC5 + x2 UAC10 + AMS, 6 double heat sinks and 63km/h (I have mobility skills so I actually go 67. It has enough tons for around 1500? damage or more?

Also, you don't have to be shy to get over 500. Around 400+ damage on Nova-S with Triple AMS while playing agressively.

[Saber Avalon]

The6thMessenger, on 14 May 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

I managed to put 2x UAC5 + 2x UAC10 + LAMS + 10t Ammo + 6 DHS, you got 2025 total damage out of that 10 tons worth of ammo.

Acersecomic, on 14 May 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

MCII-B
Here you go, x2 UAC5 + x2 UAC10 + AMS, 6 double heat sinks and 63km/h (I have mobility skills so I actually go 67. It has enough tons for around 1500? damage or more?

Also, you don't have to be shy to get over 500. Around 400+ damage on Nova-S with Triple AMS while playing agressively.

I said my MCII-B had AMS, the Scorch, a Marauder IIC, which I was in for the OP match, did not. Thanks for the builds though?

[DjStickyMouse]

This is why all you Noobs talking about K/D ratios suck... you make more money if you dont kill anything

Noob *** murder machines

[Burning2nd]

Dont worry about the stat warriors... It nothing important

[The6thMessenger]

DjStickyMouse, on 14 May 2019 - 09:29 PM, said:

This is why all you Noobs talking about K/D ratios suck... you make more money if you dont kill anything

Noob *** murder machines

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 12:50 AM, said:

Dont worry about the stat warriors... It nothing important

Do you know "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result"?

Well, stats is the one that tells you whether it's insanity or not. So yeah it's pretty important, if you are trying to figure out something, which is important if we're looking at how things are balanced in a game.

[Burning2nd]

no stats in this game are based off a broken math formulation

statically I "suck" but especially you messenger.. we have played enough rounds together for you to see me be able to do 900 damage and multiply kills in a locust.. Or me get 12 damage and be out in 15 seconds


the stats dont account for the years of disconnect problems.. Or crash to desktop.. OR the months inbetween hotfix's when thing where broken... you cant statistically analyze something when the math formulation your using is incomplete : anyone who has been here since day one knows.. (and there are not that many of us left)

[Vellron2005]

Acersecomic, on 14 May 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

Also, you don't have to be shy to get over 500. Around 400+ damage on Nova-S with Triple AMS while playing agressively.

This guy gets it ;-)

[justcallme A S H]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

no stats in this game are based off a broken math formulation

statically I "suck" but especially you messenger.. we have played enough rounds together for you to see me be able to do 900 damage and multiply kills in a locust.. Or me get 12 damage and be out in 15 seconds

the stats dont account for the years of disconnect problems.. Or crash to desktop.. OR the months inbetween hotfix's when thing where broken... you cant statistically analyze something when the math formulation your using is incomplete : anyone who has been here since day one knows.. (and there are not that many of us left)

LOL so now you're going to blame 100s of disconnects, crashes and everything else?

Last time you tried to make excuses you were challenged to a series of 1v1s, live on stream, and it was very evident that the stats are doing a very accurate job of your stats which is very much inline with your level of play and skill displayed at that time.

FWIW never seen you once break 400dmg and again the stats reflect that - your 900dmg games - 1 in 200.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 15 May 2019 - 01:35 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

no stats in this game are based off a broken math formulation

statically I "suck" but especially you messenger.. we have played enough rounds together for you to see me be able to do 900 damage and multiply kills in a locust.. Or me get 12 damage and be out in 15 seconds

So what? I see LRM boats break 800 damage, doesn't mean that they are automatically good, it takes consistency, which would be shown by watching scores.

Likewise, what is this "especially you"? Unless you have other accounts, I actually sit on 94th percentile, while you sit at 55% percentile.

https://leaderboard....The6thMessenger

Not that I'm boasting my E-Peen but you started it. I'm not going to say that I'm a good player. Though I play in potato pc, if you could accept that excuse.

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:21 AM, said:

the stats dont account for the years of disconnect problems.. Or crash to desktop.. OR the months inbetween hotfix's when thing where broken... you cant statistically analyze something when the math formulation your using is incomplete : anyone who has been here since day one knows.. (and there are not that many of us left)

Systematic Error and if you have studied Science and/or Statistics, you should know that it's a consistent error, that it's okay because you could just get a lot of it and it would even out throughout the course of a very very long observation.

And then we could also only consider a portion of the collected data because it depends on where you look, say only this month's score. Jarls does this by seasons, so you could just compare by season.

For example, for season 33:

https://leaderboard....The6thMessenger = 135 Games, 77% percentile, 0.89 W/L 0.83 KDR
https://leaderboard....ch?u=Burning2nd = 259 Games, 52%, 1.16 W/L, 0.95 KDR

See how suddenly things change? I like how you have better KDR and WLR versus me? That being said, I do have low games that season, which challenges the viability of that season. But then what if we compare seasons with 250+ games like season 31?

The6thMessenger: 81%, 253 Games, 1.24 W/L, 0.99 KDR, 272 AMS
Burning2nd: 43%, 344 Games, 1.02 W/L, 0.77 KDR, 198 AMS

So basically with enough games to straighten out the error, I'm actually better than you.

Selecting a range of data, when applied to real world, is like checking of which demographic is high in something, such as the Adolescent and Elderly has higher chance of Suicide.

Now do you get where I am going here? I'm sorry if it has to devolve in stats comparison. You started it tho.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 15 May 2019 - 02:02 AM.

[Burning2nd]

justcallme A S H, on 15 May 2019 - 01:33 AM, said:

Look... every time i say something you bring up the same old BS story OF "how i got my *** kicked" ask the guys i was fighting.. i was drunk, and i told them the second they said they where going to "record" that i wasn't gonna play

I literally stood there waling my arms around when i could have taken the shot.. I didnt even try.. i was having fun

something you have forgotten how to do ash..

lets not do this circle jerk again fwiw YOU would be a much better player if you were not such a {Richard Cameron} to everyone

you still haven't gotten it

Edited by Burning2nd, 15 May 2019 - 01:54 AM.

[Burning2nd]

The6thMessenger, on 15 May 2019 - 01:50 AM, said:

Likewise, what is this "especially you"?

we have played enough games together over the years meaning.. especially you should understand this..

because ive seen you go the same way (meaning with results)

[The6thMessenger]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:57 AM, said:

we have played enough games together over the years meaning.. especially you should understand this..

because ive seen you go the same way (meaning with results)

Well, here's the thing, you being capable of it says nothing about your skills. Like I have said I've seen lurm boats pull that off, doesn't make them good players. You could have a good team-mates, you could have been lucky.

It needs consistency over a long course of observation. Not because you pulled out a 1300 damage one games mean you are a good player, it just means you had a good game, which may also mean you have a good team or a bad enemy team.

Even if I could also pull 900 damage just as you are pulling 900 damage, doing it more frequently would mean I'm a better player, and that is how stats work.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 15 May 2019 - 02:07 AM.

[Burning2nd]

Well.. by the numbers that was a great round 6th

GG Didn't expect you to be pop tarting MRM

[The6thMessenger]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 02:16 AM, said:

Well.. by the numbers that was a great round 6th

GG Didn't expect you to be pop tarting MRM

Lol.

[Burning2nd]

i had no idea how the hell we brought that back

[The6thMessenger]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 02:19 AM, said:

i had no idea how the hell we brought that back

Seriously?

The6thMessenger, on 15 May 2019 - 02:06 AM, said:

Even if I could also pull 900 damage just as you are pulling 900 damage, doing it more frequently would mean I'm a better player, and that is how stats work.

You learned nothing.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 15 May 2019 - 02:23 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

Look... every time i say something you bring up the same old BS story OF "how i got my *** kicked" ask the guys i was fighting.. i was drunk, and i told them the second they said they where going to "record" that i wasn't gonna play

I literally stood there waling my arms around when i could have taken the shot.. I didnt even try.. i was having fun

something you have forgotten how to do ash..

lets not do this circle jerk again fwiw YOU would be a much better player if you were not such a {Richard Cameron} to everyone

you still haven't gotten it

So now it's disconnections, crashes and the latest addition is drunk.

L
O
L


And I'd be a better player is I stopped calling a spade a spade? It's because I have that view and could look at myself and admit I needed work, took on that feedback and made it happen - that I'm at the level I'm at. I don't live in some land of make believe you seem to be in permanently.

[HenryFA]

Burning2nd, on 15 May 2019 - 01:52 AM, said:

Look... every time i say something you bring up the same old BS story OF "how i got my *** kicked" ask the guys i was fighting.. i was drunk, and i told them the second they said they where going to "record" that i wasn't gonna play

I literally stood there waling my arms around when i could have taken the shot.. I didnt even try.. i was having fun

something you have forgotten how to do ash..

lets not do this circle jerk again fwiw YOU would be a much better player if you were not such a {Richard Cameron} to everyone

you still haven't gotten it

Second live 1v1, let's go!

Dont get drunk tho

Prove us that you're actually good LMAO