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[Reposter]

HI guys, I watched some YouTube Videos for MW5 gameplay... and I think its kind of Boring.

The graphics even though is not final version, makes me feel like playing some other games.

So just wondering, what are your thoughts on the latest videos of the game, its not exactly making me feel like spending on the game on release.

[GuardDogg]

As you look, I think MW5 is going to be the real deal. Like a simulator (that I am looking for), other than a fast paced first person shooter video game like "MWO". When the modding starts, going to bring MW5 to the front. First, the hud display needs work. If you look at modern military huds today "2019" and then compare to "3025". Cockpit enhancements (MFD), webcams in co-op. Like to add vehicles, buildings. Hopefully a mission maker as well. Waiting for MW5 forums to start. Maybe going to far. But that thought of piloting a huge mech simulator. When MW5 does positive, then we can see Batletech/Mechwarrior go far, than die from negatives.

Edited by GuardDogg, 09 June 2019 - 08:45 PM.

[Maddermax]

Reposter, on 09 June 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

HI guys, I watched some YouTube Videos for MW5 gameplay... and I think its kind of Boring.

The graphics even though is not final version, makes me feel like playing some other games.

So just wondering, what are your thoughts on the latest videos of the game, its not exactly making me feel like spending on the game on release.

Look at videos of previous Mechwarrior games - for the most part they always look pretty simple, as there’s no special moves or fancy stuff, just a mech being piloted and shooting at targets. The thing is, the fun is in playing and experiencing driving a huge stompy robot around, blowing **** up, and customizing your mech/lance to suit your needs. I think it will be good fun, just not a spectacle like many big name games are.

GuardDogg, on 09 June 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

As you look, I think MW5 is going to be the real deal. Like a simulator (that I am looking for), than a fast paced first person shooter video game "MWO". When the modding starts, going to bring MW5 to the front. First, the hud display needs work. If you look at modern military huds today "2019" and then compare to "3025". Cockpit enhancements (MFD), webcams in co-op. Like to add vehicles, buildings. Hopefully a mission maker as well. Waiting for MW5 forums to start. Maybe going to far. But that thought of piloting a huge mech simulator. When MW5 does positive, then we can see Batletech/Mechwarrior go far, than die from negatives.

I wouldn’t expect the HUD to change dramatically - remember, a lot of the charm of battletech is that it’s a 1980’s version of what the future will look like, so monochrome displays and simple layouts are what you see depicted. I’m sure they’ll be a lot of mods for HUDs though, as that’s one thing people always want something different from.

Here’s hoping it’s as modable as Battletech, or ARK.

[GuardDogg]

From 09 June 2019 - 07:00 PM:

I wouldn’t expect the HUD to change dramatically - remember, a lot of the charm of battletech is that it’s a 1980’s version of what the future will look like, so monochrome displays and simple layouts are what you see depicted. I’m sure they’ll be a lot of mods for HUDs though, as that’s one thing people always want something different from.

Here’s hoping it’s as modable as Battletech, or ARK.

Agree. Furthermore, haven't seen much videos of RTX used. That will be eye candy as well with a Mech Simulator "MW5". But wouldn't suggest getting the first gens of 2080ti rtx cards yet. Wait for the 3rd, or 4th (if any)

Edited by GuardDogg, 09 June 2019 - 11:57 PM.

[JediPanther]

EH! Game play isn't as fast as mwo. The locust I saw in a demo would've died in seconds in mwo vs take an alpha and keep going from a hunchback's ac 20 and 3 mls. The only two things going for it are the possibility of future mods and co-op so I can try and get my brother and his kids to play with me.

Graphics look better than mwo given the engine is better able to use current hardware where people can find vast amounts of info on the engine while mwo's engine is all but a mystery. Game play and story is yet to show anything to make me want to play the game. I value story/game play over shiny graphics.

[FRAGTAST1C]

The last single player Mech game that I played was Heavy Gear 2. So, I'm all for MW5.

[Kynesis]

It's like asking if I'd like to buy anything from EA - sure, they're shiny but there's just no substance... and they have a well established reputation that will drive people away like a stack of durian fruit cracked open in a small room.

[arcana75]

There are new MW5 videos?

[MrVaad]

These are not new videos.

Me, i have a lot of fears when i see those videos. If people think the cryengine is the problem regarding MWO performance, i think mw5 could show an engine is not everything.
There's quite a few things that seems taken from MWO (smokes, explosions, some objects ?), and if they use the same settings, we're in for a bad surprise.

Well hopefully, we'll be able to mod this

Edited by MrVaad, 10 June 2019 - 01:53 AM.

[HGAK47]

I really do appreciate good graphics. I remember when the PS1 first came out and it had that 3D controlable animated T-Rex looking thing on the system. I was amazed as a kid.

Fast forward a bit more and when Crysis came out, the graphics were awesomely good! So much so that it killed my then GPU and I had to upgrade, and upgrade a few more times to really play it well lol.

The next big step might possibly be ray tracing as when done right that can make lighting in any game look stupidly good and realistic. (Even minecraft with ray tracing is pretty epic lol)

Now dont get me wrong the graphics for MW5 look fine, nothing spectacular but just fine in my book. If I have learnt anything recently its that GAMEPLAY > Graphics. Unless your game is making huge strides forward in graphic fidelity and thats your one trick pony then honestly decent fun engaging interesting gameplay will always win the day.~

Not that im a fan but look at fortnight, crap graphics but gameplay mechanics people obviously like. Minecraft, stupid blocks of 16x16 pixels I believe - BUT the gameplay is indepth and being able to transform the world with gameplay makes that game great to a lot of people for a long time - it also has the worst graphics you have probably ever seen.... by design!

So to sum my thoughts up, PGI need to make MW5 a good solid base and from then on im sure there are plenty of people that would be willing to mod the game to make new content and gameplay. I would really like to see a "MWO 2" come from MW5 - some day.

[MeiSooHaityu]

The game looks good and fun to me. I definitely wouldn't call it boring.

I'm judging this mostly on the one video that takes us through a mission...


It's all early pre-alpha stuff, but I feel it gives an idea of how a standard mission might be structured. To me, this does a better job of getting me interested than the trailer style videos because I get an idea of how the game will play out.

[Marauder3D]

Since release is a mere 90 days away, I'm wondering when we'll get some more footage. What about closed beta? Things are very quiet on PGI's end considering who close we are supposed to be to release for MW5.

I suppose I'm just spoiled by how HBS communicates with the community for BattleTech:Urban Warfare.

Oh well.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Marauder3D, on 10 June 2019 - 06:11 AM, said:

Since release is a mere 90 days away, I'm wondering when we'll get some more footage. What about closed beta? Things are very quiet on PGI's end considering who close we are supposed to be to release for MW5.

I suppose I'm just spoiled by how HBS communicates with the community for BattleTech:Urban Warfare.

Oh well.

I agree. I think HBS has been much more engaging.

Despite that though, I do think PGI has still engaged the community with MechCon highlights and AMAs.

I think that the Beta is in August sometime, right? I seem to remember something like... within a month before launch.

[Peter2k]

GuardDogg, on 09 June 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

As you look, I think MW5 is going to be the real deal. Like a simulator (that I am looking for), other than a fast paced first person shooter video game like "MWO". When the modding starts, going to bring MW5 to the front. First, the hud display needs work. If you look at modern military huds today "2019" and then compare to "3025". Cockpit enhancements (MFD), webcams in co-op. Like to add vehicles, buildings. Hopefully a mission maker as well. Waiting for MW5 forums to start. Maybe going to far. But that thought of piloting a huge mech simulator. When MW5 does positive, then we can see Batletech/Mechwarrior go far, than die from negatives.

That could also be the tech base available and the fact that you have only stock engines/can't change engine rating.
MWO felt a lot slower back in the day.

GuardDogg, on 09 June 2019 - 07:03 PM, said:

Agree. Furthermore, haven't seen much videos of RTX used. That will be eye candy as well with a Mech Simulator "MW5". But wouldn't suggest getting the first gens of 2080ti rtx cards yet. Wait for the 3rd, or 4th (if any)

RTX made me hopeful that they have perfomance under control.
No point in adding RTX if you're game runs horrible to begin with.

Kynesis, on 09 June 2019 - 10:03 PM, said:

It's like asking if I'd like to buy anything from EA - sure, they're shiny but there's just no substance... and they have a well established reputation that will drive people away like a stack of durian fruit cracked open in a small room.

One key difference.
Modder actually can pick up the slack.
What we really need is just a stable solid game, nothing uber awesome.

I'd rather bet that a mod to expand the mechlab will be popular.
Or any other "oh noes, that's a killer for me" comments I usually read.

Edited by Peter2k, 10 June 2019 - 11:00 AM.

[Peter2k]

MeiSooHaityu, on 10 June 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

I agree. I think HBS has been much more engaging.

Despite that though, I do think PGI has still engaged the community with MechCon highlights and AMAs.

I think that the Beta is in August sometime, right? I seem to remember something like... within a month before launch.

PGI is trying HBS style, not as frequent, but they do try.

Still there are some questions I'm really waiting to ask

Marauder3D, on 10 June 2019 - 06:11 AM, said:

Since release is a mere 90 days away, I'm wondering when we'll get some more footage. What about closed beta? Things are very quiet on PGI's end considering who close we are supposed to be to release for MW5.

I suppose I'm just spoiled by how HBS communicates with the community for BattleTech:Urban Warfare.

Oh well.

Mmm, 90 days :-)

MrVaad, on 10 June 2019 - 12:54 AM, said:

These are not new videos.

Me, i have a lot of fears when i see those videos. If people think the cryengine is the problem regarding MWO performance, i think mw5 could show an engine is not everything.
There's quite a few things that seems taken from MWO (smokes, explosions, some objects ?), and if they use the same settings, we're in for a bad surprise.

Well hopefully, we'll be able to mod this

Will see how they handle DX12, ehh?

[MeiSooHaityu]

Peter2k, on 10 June 2019 - 11:04 AM, said:

PGI is trying HBS style, not as frequent, but they do try.

I think PGI has made more of an effort than before with the AMAs, and I applaud them for that. They are very informative.

I wish that PGI would show some more MW5 gameplay similar to how HBS had streamed BattleTech and BT DLC before it had launched. In similar fashion, how cool would it be to get a PGI/NGNGtv stream of a MW5 mission with some Q&A thrown in during? I would think this could be possible soon if PGI is truly on target to meet their release date.

Heck, if PGI is too busy (nose to the grindstone), even handing an early build of the game to Phil and Daren play a PGI approved mission on NGNGtv would be rather cool.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 10 June 2019 - 11:12 AM.

[MechaBattler]

Graphics are highly overrated. A high fidelity ****, is still a ****. Gameplay is what determines the longevity of a game. From what we've seen of videos. It's not impresssive. But videos and how a game handles when you're at the controls can be different. So who knows. Gameplay wise it should be similar to MWO. But have a greater immersion factor. Though aside from a moment where water ran down the cockpit, I didn't see any standout immersion features. So far we haven't seen the AI put up much of a fight. So that's not a ringing endorsement.

I think we'll be very lucky to have a stable and light on bugs new mechwarrior game. It could be the greatest gift to the franchise PGI leaves. A game that could be modded and carry on well after it's release in the hands of enthusiastic modders.

Although arguebly PGI giving Harmony Gold the "Right there Fred!" with the lawsuit comes a close second.

[MrVaad]

Oh i'm not pushing for ultra graphics. This is probably the most accessible thing to mod
But rather for good performance and gameplay

Edited by MrVaad, 10 June 2019 - 01:26 PM.

[GuardDogg]

Watching E3, and nothing about MW5 (yet or if). Showing all other games that I have no interest in at all, coming out in September. And updated technology.

[Koniving]

PGI's only got a single hit and it isn't gonna bother making a presentation at E3. Which, unfortunately, is sad. It could have at least gotten noticed. If there was any chance for one it'd be at the PC / AMD... or if Microsoft got them to do a console version perhaps during Microsoft's conference (which needed some help).