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[Z01]

I was in my ENF-GH and when I engaged a streak Shadowcat I enbled my stealth but he is still able to lock me with his streak. I thought stealth armour can only be countered by NARC. Is there any gameplay rules change that I missed?

[Z01]

Just realised TAG does work on my stealth armour. It is strange that my TAG does not work on enemy's. Is it lag issue?

[Wolfos31]

Was he using Tag? What about ECM in counter mode?

I personally don't have a lot of experience with streaks, but those are two scenarios where I think he may have been able to target you.

[Kubernetes]

Z01, on 17 June 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

Just realised TAG does work on my stealth armour. It is strange that my TAG does not work on enemy's. Is it lag issue?

If you're in stealth when you're tagging others? Because your ability to target while in stealth is severely hampered (can you target at all?).

Edited by Kubernetes, 17 June 2019 - 09:06 AM.

[So You Say]

If he had a lock on you before you enabled stealth he will be able to keep his lock until you break line of site

[Chris Lowrey]

Z01, on 17 June 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

Just realised TAG does work on my stealth armour. It is strange that my TAG does not work on enemy's. Is it lag issue?

Technically your tag is working. In this case, two things are happening:

TAG is successfully hitting a target and there for condones TAG benefits for all team members allowing them to get a boosted sensor lock against the target.

Active Stealth armor puts you into a "Low Signal State" as if you were under the influence of enemy ECM. (A property adapted from the lore but kept for game play balance reasons.) Low Signal sensor states disable your ability to acquire weapon lock-ons.

So your tag is still working, specifically for any team mate in the vicinity that can benefit from its boosts, but you cannot capitalize on Weapon Locks from TAG yourself while the Low Signal state disables your ability to gain weapon locks.

[Khobai]

Streaks should have the option to dumbfire when in low signal state.

A game mechanic that prevents you from using your weapons is not fun.

Its in the same vein as 0 damage deadzones on PPCs/ATMs.

[LT. HARDCASE]

You enabled the Stealth Armor after the SCat already had a lock. It isn't a get out of jail free card like that.

Good game.

[FlareUKCS]

Khobai, on 17 June 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

Streaks should have the option to dumbfire when in low signal state.

A game mechanic that prevents you from using your weapons is not fun.

Its in the same vein as 0 damage deadzones on PPCs/ATMs.

If that was the case then normal SRM's and Missiles would not even be a choice.. do you want a hard lock on with dumbfire or just plain dumbfire, I would strip a bit of armour for the Streaks then as default.

Choice is do you want locking missiles that can be negated with ECM or have missiles you can still aim and fire at what you see?
My opinion tho

[The6thMessenger]

Khobai, on 17 June 2019 - 10:11 AM, said:

Streaks should have the option to dumbfire when in low signal state.

A game mechanic that prevents you from using your weapons is not fun.

Its in the same vein as 0 damage deadzones on PPCs/ATMs.

Uh, here you go again.

If you want dumb-fire, use SRMs.

If anything, ECM should be able to counter Stealth Armor when in Counter Mode, this would make stealth-lights tread more carefully, likewise ECM users could go into the offensive. It's not like 120m is easy to get in anyways, you're better off shooting a PPC if you want Stealth-Armor counter at a range.

[MrXanthios]

Chris Lowrey, on 17 June 2019 - 09:42 AM, said:

So your tag is still working, specifically for any team mate in the vicinity that can benefit from its boosts, but you cannot capitalize on Weapon Locks from TAG yourself while the Low Signal state disables your ability to gain weapon locks.

oh boy, these 31st century mechs that are not shielded against electromagnetic fields..

[Nightbird]

MrXanthios, on 17 June 2019 - 03:29 PM, said:

oh boy, these 31st century mechs that are not shielded against electromagnetic fields..

Mechs are shielded but missiles need a signal from the mech to track and this signal outside the mech is jammed

[HGAK47]

I was just in a match with a streak fit stormcrow, I have a probe and a full tag installed. I saw a light stealth mech so targeted him with the tag yet I was unable to lock him the whole time.

I thought with a tag targeting a stealth mech as well as having a probe would allow me to target a stealth mech? If not then the streak crow has a serious gaping hole in what I thought would be anti light duty... hummm.