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[Prototelis]

Uhm yeah, I might be many things, I might do many things; but one thing I'd never do is insult someone by basically telling them they have aspergers. That's a little whack.

Your analogy is invalid. Consent has nothing to do with whether or not you are supporting something. If you buy an unreal game you are directly supporting epic and their technology. You're wrong.

[The6thMessenger]

Prototelis, on 26 July 2019 - 04:40 AM, said:

Uhm yeah, I might be many things, I might do many things; but one thing I'd never do is insult someone by basically telling them they have aspergers. That's a little whack.

You're still butt hurt about that? Lol.

I never said you have Aspergers. I likened you to Sheldon Cooper, for being unable to perceive the possibility of being wrong.

Prototelis, on 26 July 2019 - 04:40 AM, said:

Your analogy is invalid. Consent has nothing to do with whether or not you are supporting something. If you buy an unreal game you are directly supporting epic and their technology. You're wrong.

Lol. Just lol. No proof nor explanation, nothing. Just assertions.

Whatever you say, enjoy.

[Prototelis]

The6thMessenger, on 26 July 2019 - 04:49 AM, said:

You're still butt hurt about that? Lol.

Unlike you, I have enough social skills to not get butthurt on the internet.

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Lol. Just lol. No proof nor explanation, nothing. Just assertions.

Whatever you say, enjoy.

You never proved you were right uhhurhurhur.

[The6thMessenger]

Prototelis, on 26 July 2019 - 04:58 AM, said:

Unlike you, I have enough social skills to not get butthurt on the internet.

Lol. Just lol. You raged for misinterpreting what I said for "saying" that you "have" Aspergers.

Yes, you have enough social skills. Enjoy.

Prototelis, on 26 July 2019 - 04:58 AM, said:

You never proved you were right uhhurhurhur.

K.

[Prototelis]

The6thMessenger, on 26 July 2019 - 05:04 AM, said:

Lol. Just lol. You raged for misinterpreting what I said for "saying" that you "have" Aspergers.

rage != pointing out when something is disgusting

[The6thMessenger]

K

[Prototelis]

Wow, I've never seen you admit when you were wrong. Good work.

[Novakaine]

Well on a personal note I've never been wrong a day in my life
And I don't apologize for it.

[Y E O N N E]

The6thMessenger, on 26 July 2019 - 12:45 AM, said:

That's just basically tax. You don't necessarily support your government just because everything can be tax deductable.

You don't have any real choice but to pay your taxes. Doing otherwise harms you physically and financially.

You have a choice about whether to support Epic by buying games they have a stake in. There are so many games out there that have nothing to do with Epic that there is no sound argument that can be made equating supporting Epic via UE royalties to unavoidable (*insert rich people joke*) living expenses like taxes.

So, yes. You buying games that run on Unreal Engine is very much the same concept as buying a game from Epic itself.

[The6thMessenger]

Y E O N N E, on 26 July 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

You don't have any real choice but to pay your taxes. Doing otherwise harms you physically and financially.

Well, you don't have a real choice but to pay the royalties, else you won't be able to play the game that you want. What makes you think that it's not harming you to not do what you want in the world?

Well you can pirate the game, but you'd be also hurting the developers who doesn't necessarily part of the problem. Also possible viruses.

Y E O N N E, on 26 July 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

You have a choice about whether to support Epic by buying games they have a stake in.

There are so many games out there that have nothing to do with Epic that there is no sound argument that can be made equating supporting Epic via UE royalties to unavoidable (*insert rich people joke*) living expenses like taxes.

No. That's an unfair and biased way to make a connection, you single out games and developers, it's incredibly petty.

You might as well blame crime victims. Just no.

Y E O N N E, on 26 July 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

So, yes. You buying games that run on Unreal Engine is very much the same concept as buying a game from Epic itself.

No. That's just an unfortunate tax to enjoy the game some other, better people, did.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 26 July 2019 - 03:21 PM.

[Luminis]

While both the UE royalties as well as the EGS cut go to Epic, I do think there's a bit of a difference.

UE is a legitimately good product while EGS (in my opinion) is not. And EGS wouldn't even rustle my jimmies if it wasn't for their exclusivity deals. As such, I don't need Epic to go belly up, I just need their exclusivity deals to not pay off for them.

[Anjian]

Wow.

We went from the Unreal Engine being the Savior of MWO2 for many months, to suddenly Unreal Engine being the Devil Incarnate.

[The6thMessenger]

Luminis, on 27 July 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

While both the UE royalties as well as the EGS cut go to Epic, I do think there's a bit of a difference.

UE is a legitimately good product while EGS (in my opinion) is not. And EGS wouldn't even rustle my jimmies if it wasn't for their exclusivity deals. As such, I don't need Epic to go belly up, I just need their exclusivity deals to not pay off for them.

Yes. Exactly. Thank you.

Anjian, on 27 July 2019 - 12:47 AM, said:

Wow.

We went from the Unreal Engine being the Savior of MWO2 for many months, to suddenly Unreal Engine being the Devil Incarnate.

I honestly don't even get how these people made a connection like that.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 27 July 2019 - 01:17 AM.

[Avlaen]

Agent of Change, on 25 July 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

Yeah I mean as far As i'm concerned they can keep their game until EGS exclusivity expires. they may as well have announced this as a 14 month release delay.

Or find it on the 7 seas ahoy me hearty.

[Prototelis]

Luminis, on 27 July 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

While both the UE royalties as well as the EGS cut go to Epic, I do think there's a bit of a difference.

UE is a legitimately good product while EGS (in my opinion) is not. And EGS wouldn't even rustle my jimmies if it wasn't for their exclusivity deals. As such, I don't need Epic to go belly up, I just need their exclusivity deals to not pay off for them.

It doesn't matter if you think its a good product.

If you by an unreal engine game you are directly supporting epic.

[Luminis]

Prototelis, on 27 July 2019 - 10:13 AM, said:

It doesn't matter if you think its a good product.

If you by an unreal engine game you are directly supporting epic.

Yes, and as I said, I don't have much of an issue with that.

They're getting exclusivity deals to further EGS' market share. If that doesn't work out - e,g, all it does it cost them money - they'll eventually stop getting exclusivity deals. This whole thing only works as long as it makes people jump ship to get the exclusives. No ship jumping = no payoff.

[Prototelis]

Exclusivity deals aren't even remotely new in gaming.

[The6thMessenger]

Prototelis, on 27 July 2019 - 10:13 AM, said:

It doesn't matter if you think its a good product.

If you by an unreal engine game you are directly supporting epic.

No, it's indirectly.

[Prototelis]

It really is not.

[The6thMessenger]

Prototelis, on 27 July 2019 - 03:39 PM, said:

It really is not.

Buying UE4 games isn't direct support.

Buying games directly from them is.