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[MW Waldorf Statler]

im seeing Nascar around the single Mountain of Viridian Bog ...like a cat thats hunt her Tail , next we seeing Nascar around a single Pebble? ...
Problem , the most so concentrate thats not the last in Chain, thats all incoming Fire is ignored ...you can stand 300m left or right and the Zombie Run ignored you and your Fire...and the last Guys thats falling in the Frontal Focus Fire of the reds..one by one

Edited by MW Waldorf Statler, 06 November 2019 - 05:02 AM.

[XDevilsChariotX]

I think the nascar problem comes down to map design. Anyone here have some skills with graphics design? Maybe someone could use their talent to maybe add some things to the worst nascar maps to block pathways, so nascar don't happen and pass that along to PGI?

Edited by XDevilsChariotX, 05 November 2019 - 08:31 AM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

XDevilsChariotX, on 05 November 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

I think the nascar problem comes down to map design. Anyone here have some skills with graphics design? Maybe someone could use their talent to maybe add some things to the worst nascar maps to block pathways, so nascar don't happen and pass that along to PGI?

it doesn't happen if brains are used, see faction play.
outside from that - better keep your engine runnin'

[XDevilsChariotX]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 05 November 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

it doesn't happen if brains are used, see faction play.
outside from that - better keep your engine runnin'

Ya pretty much, why I've started to learn to play faction. Haven't really touched QP in a little while now.

Edited by XDevilsChariotX, 05 November 2019 - 08:38 AM.

[R Valentine]

MWO players LOVE nascar. Why else would Canyon, Caustic, Mining, and HPG be so popular? You see those maps come up and you know what's winning the vote. I've lost with a 12x vs mining before.

[General Solo]

Nascar is so predictable, why are people still having problems with it?

[MW Waldorf Statler]

XDevilsChariotX, on 05 November 2019 - 08:25 AM, said:

I think the nascar problem comes down to map design. Anyone here have some skills with graphics design? Maybe someone could use their talent to maybe add some things to the worst nascar maps to block pathways, so nascar don't happen and pass that along to PGI?

PGI has nothing interest for this ...we have a Lot good Mapmaker and Designer here (ok ,many goes)..PGI has her Mechgod Russ ,and her say "Im seeing the best what the Community will"

OZHomerOZ, on 05 November 2019 - 04:43 PM, said:

Nascar is so predictable, why are people still having problems with it?

Hi Homer im play to win the Match with my Team , not to padding my Stats or bring high my K/D ..its shaming ,when the Team runs away with nothing Fight and ignored the Team

Edited by MW Waldorf Statler, 06 November 2019 - 05:08 AM.

[TVMA Doc]

Sagara Sousuke 011011001, on 13 August 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

One tactic I've only seen once on this map that really could be used more in skirmish or domination, is everyone on the team goes basement.

The one time I saw it, it caught opposite team off guard. Basically they took top and realized no one was there. A few people wandered in to the basement and died leaving the basement team with a 12 v 9.

This only works if the other team is stupid.

I've had the opposing team run to the basement, so we had the top in an uncontested manner. Sure, you'll need to wait until the countdown is around 5 minutes, but the people in the basement will eventually have to come out unless someone pokes and gives them a lead in kills. If they don't, it's a 15 minute waste of time with no action...

If they do decide to come out, they are coming down narrow corridors with mechs on top with good firing lines. It's a slaughter.

[Carpenocturn]

TVMA Doc, on 06 November 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

This only works if the other team is stupid.

I've had the opposing team run to the basement, so we had the top in an uncontested manner. Sure, you'll need to wait until the countdown is around 5 minutes, but the people in the basement will eventually have to come out unless someone pokes and gives them a lead in kills. If they don't, it's a 15 minute waste of time with no action...

If they do decide to come out, they are coming down narrow corridors with mechs on top with good firing lines. It's a slaughter.

I've had this happen several times. I've had to follow the herd and the whole time I'm thinking "This is the dumbest thing, WTF?" All the while people are claiming "It's a sound tactic, we kill them when they poke, we guard all the entrances."
Every damn time we die in the basement or trying to get out. I just cannot...…?

Sad, sad players.

This is a game of mobile warfare. Sitting and waiting is asking to die.

[Dee Eight]

It only works if the basement team is unified in being more patient than the outside team, and if they avoid poking back and forth near doorways. Because of the way PGI coded terrain interactions and weapons... basement placed artillery and air strikes will hit things outside just fine, and seismic can be used to aim them. One unlucky (for the receiver) strike and the guys on top have to push down eventually. I detonated a raven last night using a basement placed arty strike as the first kill of the game.

[Prototelis]

Basement doomed to fail even if you are patient and don't poke.

Don't go basement strat. Don't suggest basement strat.

Don't listen to someone that loses more than they win.

[justcallme A S H]

Prototelis, on 06 November 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

Basement doomed to fail even if you are patient and don't poke.

Don't go basement strat. Don't suggest basement strat.

Don't listen to someone that loses more than they win.

And then Assault, Conquest or Domination - Basement is auto-lose because you cannot control any of the map.

What a stupid suggestion.

[General Solo]

Basement basically splits your team
Its a bad move

12 v 6 x 2 = lose

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 06 November 2019 - 11:05 PM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Dee Eight, on 06 November 2019 - 08:53 PM, said:

It only works if the outside team is more ret*rded than than the basement team

there, fixed that for you.

and on a similar note: were I to still play this game and my side goes to the basement .. things would happen.
I get that everybody new to the game HAS to try it once, but after that, EVERYBODY should recognise the idea for what it is: a total waste of time.

[LowSubmarino]

mad kat, on 12 August 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

Ok i really don't get the obsession with why people keep voting for this map. I'd comfortably bet that 85%+ of matches on it are just blindly run in a circle while three mechs fool themselves they can 'take the top' .

The central uplink satelite area needs moving off to one side or at least have a large wall across one side to prevent potato rotato.

I'm fed up with the same predictable outcome when the lemmings pick this map. The temptation to quit and go and play on polar Highlands and even get lurmed to death is more appealing than seeing HPG get picked.

You say that here, that its blind nascar and all that, but ingame, ppl like you are quite all the time. And ppl like me have to tell you to take the center for massive advantages and high ground. The worst whiners concerning nascar....Ive seen them all ingame. Ingame theyre all quite. They never communicate, you have to tell them every time to take certain spots that are good positoins and theyre just quite followers. Here everybody complains about nascar but when it counts those ppl are always quite, They never have a plan, they never mage valid suggetsions, they just follow.

If youre a quite, silent follower than you have no right to just whine around here. Speak the hell up ingame, when it matters not here. Nobody cares about it here. On the battlefield, thats when you speak up. This whinign here is pathetic.

[mad kat]

LowSubmarino, on 07 November 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

You say that here, that its blind nascar and all that, but ingame, ppl like you are quite all the time. And ppl like me have to tell you to take the center for massive advantages and high ground. The worst whiners concerning nascar....Ive seen them all ingame. Ingame theyre all quite. They never communicate, you have to tell them every time to take certain spots that are good positoins and theyre just quite followers. Here everybody complains about nascar but when it counts those ppl are always quite, They never have a plan, they never mage valid suggetsions, they just follow.

If youre a quite, silent follower than you have no right to just whine around here. Speak the hell up ingame, when it matters not here. Nobody cares about it here. On the battlefield, thats when you speak up. This whinign here is pathetic.

See post #29 I've been doing more active voice calls lately when this map comes up. Well as much as RL allows me to use coms. But yeah that's seems to be what you have to do.

[eishiba]

Only idiots Nascar to the top. Smart people Nascar to the bottom.

[Phoolan Devi]

I've yet to see taking the top work.

[General Solo]

You need focus fire and mechs with higher mounts help for top

Also the whole team simply cant fit top
so having some ranged faster mechs on the flanks as they can shoot top and shoot he nascar in the back
or split them when the enemy goes after the flankers, if the team is smart attack split enemy then
If not probably gonna lose but nuthing to do with nascar.

and when on top you nascar by simply changing facing
When top pivot on your heel or do a 360 thats one lap

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 10 November 2019 - 07:09 PM.

[Prototelis]

If you start with spine to your right that's a good place to be, IMO.

Some mechs go the far right ramp on top, some mid spine, some far spine. Everyone has ridge cover and some place to drop that gives you a concealed lane. You can even have this neat little line that can cascade a bit and giga-**** the enemy team as they try to "pusha pusha pusha" and "Take the tahp"

The same misguided **** happens on Mining, where some knob on your team wants to push center with 4 mechs but there are already 6 up there.