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[The pessimistic optimist]

It has perfect convergence on it Rac 2 and there high mounted fight me

[Bombast]

King Crab is better, you can bring back-up Machine Guns.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Bombast, on 27 August 2019 - 05:49 PM, said:

King Crab is better, you can bring back-up Machine Guns.

I said medium mech did I say best assault mech ?>

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 05:57 PM.

[GeminiWolf]

Yeah it actually was my first 3 Rac2's build. Only issue is running out of Ammo

[The pessimistic optimist]

GeminiWolf, on 27 August 2019 - 06:18 PM, said:

Yeah it actually was my first 3 Rac2's build. Only issue is running out of Ammo

Got XL that Mfer all weapon are in one side anyways if yea lose your weapon side your worthless anyways and take light ferro-fiber

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 06:26 PM.

[Feral Clown]

You are wrong.

Bushwacker X1 is the best. It has more tonnage. A better profile. Better quirks. Doesn't become useless after losing one torso.

It's not even close.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 06:42 PM, said:

You are wrong.

Bushwacker X1 is the best. It has more tonnage. A better profile. Better quirks. Doesn't become useless after losing one torso.

It's not even close.

Pfft convergence is bad and mounts are low bushwhacker same tonnage

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 06:48 PM.

[FupDup]

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 06:42 PM, said:

You are wrong.

Bushwacker X1 is the best. It has more tonnage. A better profile. Better quirks. Doesn't become useless after losing one torso.

It's not even close.

Shaq Hawk and Bushwanker are both 55 tons. However, the Shaq Hawk can take an XL engine with lower risk than the Bushwanker (Bush can't ever XL basically) to free up some more pod space.

I'd personally probably still take the Bushie for the profile/durability it has. Or even just bump it up to a Champion.

[Feral Clown]

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 06:47 PM, said:

Pfft convergence is bad and mounts are low

Absolutely nothing wrong with it's convergence and not low enough to be a hindrance.

It is not even a question the X1 is the best period. It's even listed on Grimmechs while Shadow Hawk does not.

So the experts have spoken and you are wrong.

[The pessimistic optimist]

FupDup, on 27 August 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

Shaq Hawk and Bushwanker are both 55 tons. However, the Shaq Hawk can take an XL engine with lower risk than the Bushwanker (Bush can't ever XL basically) to free up some more pod space.

I'd personally probably still take the Bushie for the profile/durability it has. Or even just bump it up to a Champion.

Just don't like lower mounted weapons and the poor convergence i compared to shadow hawk

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with it's convergence and not low enough to be a hindrance.

It is not even a question the X1 is the best period. It's even listed on Grimmechs while Shadow Hawk does not.

So the experts have spoken and you are wrong.

Oh your expert are we and yes convergence sucks compared to shadow hawk

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 06:52 PM.

[Feral Clown]

FupDup, on 27 August 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

Shaq Hawk and Bushwanker are both 55 tons. However, the Shaq Hawk can take an XL engine with lower risk than the Bushwanker (Bush can't ever XL basically) to free up some more pod space.

I'd personally probably still take the Bushie for the profile/durability it has. Or even just bump it up to a Champion.

Bushie can absolutely XL and is considered one of the safest IS mechs to do so. Thought the Shadow Hawk was 50 but looked it up you are correct. However it has the less favourable structure quirks and a square easy to pick off profile. Bushie gets armor quirks on top of a slender profile that is built for racs (ie you don't torso twist in it).

Champion is not a medium and it is ridiculously stupid looking.

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

Just don't like lower mounted weapons and the poor convergence i compared to shadow hawk


Oh your expert are we and yes convergence sucks compared to shadow hawk

No the experts are over at Grimmechs.

You can argue all you like but quirks and better profile make you wrong. It isn't even a debate, you simply have to accept you are wrong.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

Bushie can absolutely XL and is considered one of the safest IS mechs to do so. Thought the Shadow Hawk was 50 but looked it up you are correct. However it has the less favourable structure quirks and a square easy to pick off profile. Bushie gets armor quirks on top of a slender profile that is built for racs (ie you don't torso twist in it).

Champion is not a medium and it is ridiculously stupid looking.



No the experts are over at Grimmechs.

You can argue all you like but quirks and better profile make you wrong. It isn't even a debate, you simply have to accept you are wrong.

Didn't even know tonnage of shadow hawk take your words with a grain of salt

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 07:00 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Using RACs on the Shadowhawk is a waste of amazing ballistic cool-down quirks.

[The pessimistic optimist]

FupDup, on 27 August 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

Shaq Hawk and Bushwanker are both 55 tons. However, the Shaq Hawk can take an XL engine with lower risk than the Bushwanker (Bush can't ever XL basically) to free up some more pod space.

I'd personally probably still take the Bushie for the profile/durability it has. Or even just bump it up to a Champion.

The Profile zero problem for 3xRac2 high mounts make it so you can fire from haul down position most of the time in a good spot most of your mech in cover

[Feral Clown]

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 06:56 PM, said:

Didn't even know tonnage of shadow hawk take your words with a grain of salt

You play at potato level so I take anything you say with a metric **** ton of salt.

It seems you don't understand profiles and quirks which is not surprising. But yes I did forget Shadow Hawk was 55, haven't played it in a long time.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 07:04 PM, said:

You play at potato level so I take anything you say with a metric **** ton of salt.

It seems you don't understand profiles and quirks which is not surprising. But yes I did forget Shadow Hawk was 55, haven't played it in a long time.

1v1 right now want put that money were mouth is people love to talk on forums lets see what you can do

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 07:08 PM.

[FupDup]

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

The Profile zero problem for 3xRac2 high mounts make it so you can fire from haul down position most of the time in a good spot most of your mech in cover

Profile is about more than just gun height, but also general body shape. The bullet-nose body makes the Bushie spread damage more easily while facetanking with rapid-fire weaponry such as RACs. Flat blocky torsos don't work as well for facetanking.

Also the bottommost cannon on the Shad's shoulder isn't really that uber high.

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

1v1 right now want put that money were mouth is

MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!

[The pessimistic optimist]

FupDup, on 27 August 2019 - 07:08 PM, said:

Profile is about more than just gun height, but also general body shape. The bullet-nose body makes the Bushie spread damage more easily while facetanking with rapid-fire weaponry such as RACs. Flat blocky torsos don't work as well for facetanking.

Also the bottommost cannon on the Shad's shoulder isn't really that uber high.


MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!

He so can!!! Also still waiting for Feral Clown to man up

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 07:13 PM.

[Feral Clown]

SirSmokes, on 27 August 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

1v1 right now want put that money were mouth is people love to talk on forums lets see what you can do

LOL.

You said fight you dude, I am. Accept that you are wrong. Grim, quirks, profile and such.

Deal with it.

One v one'ing a 53 percenter? Not tonight am busy but come by BCMC channel on Cobra Saturday. Let me know what weight class and such and what you think would be fair. My suggestion is that we use exact same mech with same build, maybe even trials.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Feral Clown, on 27 August 2019 - 07:27 PM, said:

LOL.

You said fight you dude, I am. Accept that you are wrong. Grim, quirks, profile and such.

Deal with it.

One v one'ing a 53 percenter? Not tonight am busy but come by BCMC channel on Cobra Saturday. Let me know what weight class and such and what you think would be fair. My suggestion is that we use exact same mech with same build, maybe even trials.

Ok 3xrac 2 build medium get back to me and I going bug you till you do on forums don't cop out on me!

Edited by SirSmokes, 27 August 2019 - 07:35 PM.