So When The Move To Epic Happened...
#1
Posted 19 December 2019 - 10:26 AM
What does teamviewer do ?
well its a proprietary software application for remote control, desktop sharing, online meetings, web conferencing and file transfer between computers"
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Remote service scams using TeamViewer
TeamViewer and similar services have been used to commit technical support scams via telephone calls. People are called, either at random or from a list, by criminals claiming to represent a computer support service that has identified the victim's computer as being infected by malware, most often using the name of companies such as Microsoft. They then ask the victim to give them access to their computer by installing a remote control service, which can allow the attacker to infect the computer with malware or to delete or copy personal files. A Wired journalist investigating the scams was asked by a scammer to install TeamViewer.[25][26] It was reported that ransomware programs were utilizing TeamViewer as a tool to obtain remote access to infected machines.[27][28] In the United Kingdom, the Internet service provider TalkTalk blocked many remote access tools to protect its customers from remote service scams.[29] They remain blocked as of April 2019."
Thanks a lot Steam !!!
https://en.wikipedia...wiki/TeamViewer
#2
Posted 19 December 2019 - 10:49 AM
Dee Eight, on 19 December 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:
What does teamviewer do ?
well its a proprietary software application for remote control, desktop sharing, online meetings, web conferencing and file transfer between computers"
"
Remote service scams using TeamViewer
TeamViewer and similar services have been used to commit technical support scams via telephone calls. People are called, either at random or from a list, by criminals claiming to represent a computer support service that has identified the victim's computer as being infected by malware, most often using the name of companies such as Microsoft. They then ask the victim to give them access to their computer by installing a remote control service, which can allow the attacker to infect the computer with malware or to delete or copy personal files. A Wired journalist investigating the scams was asked by a scammer to install TeamViewer.[25][26] It was reported that ransomware programs were utilizing TeamViewer as a tool to obtain remote access to infected machines.[27][28] In the United Kingdom, the Internet service provider TalkTalk blocked many remote access tools to protect its customers from remote service scams.[29] They remain blocked as of April 2019."
Thanks a lot Steam !!!
https://en.wikipedia...wiki/TeamViewer
But... but.... Epic is so evil.... Steam is murrica, it is so clean and innocent...
Thx, for the share!
#3
Posted 19 December 2019 - 10:55 AM
And no I'm not one of those "evil epic QQ" persons.
#4
Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:00 AM
Not calling you out or anything, but are you positive it was just a regular Steam update that installed it on your PC? Cause it sounds awfully weird that a Steam spyware attack this obvious went unnoticed by everyone but you.
#5
Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:11 AM
In fact, TeamViewer is designed for Steam and Origin, so the chances that Steam built it is pretty much zero
https://en.wikipedia...wiki/TeamViewer
No mention of Steam
#6
Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:12 AM
Some people running servers found out the people that host their servers have this installed with the service (for their Network hosting) for troubleshooting reasons and that version specifically is 11.
Are you running a server? The complaint I found on Google is that the service hosting his servers autoinstalls it any time he opens his server if TeamViewer 11 isn't present.
Steam has a file that keeps track of user data to hold payment information, play times, system information, etc. However that is pretty standard even Skype and discord does that (cept play time).
#7
Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:32 AM
#8
Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:50 AM
Luminis, on 19 December 2019 - 11:00 AM, said:
Not calling you out or anything, but are you positive it was just a regular Steam update that installed it on your PC? Cause it sounds awfully weird that a Steam spyware attack this obvious went unnoticed by everyone but you.
His post is incorrect. Steam itself doesn't install team viewer. He doesn't seem to understand how an MSI works, especially in terms of how an MSI delivered by Steam works.
Edited by KGeddon, 19 December 2019 - 11:51 AM.
#9
Posted 19 December 2019 - 12:05 PM
Steam absolutely has security issues. 72 million steam accounts were hacked earlier this year.
There's no moral component to either platform, neither is better than the other in that regard.
However Steam is a better overall interface by far (though the recent UI changes irk me) and Epic has exclusives like Xbox and PS4, which is ****.
#10
Posted 19 December 2019 - 12:51 PM
#11
Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:27 PM
It is possible you installed it with another software. Certainly not with Steam.
And Epic Store sucks. Not just because it is badly done but because I don't need another store and its exclusives. Until MW5 comes to Steam or, best version, GoG, it is a no buy. A 80% discount may weaken my resolve. Let's see what comes first.
#12
Posted 19 December 2019 - 03:08 PM
Shismar, on 19 December 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:
It is possible you installed it with another software. Certainly not with Steam.
And Epic Store sucks. Not just because it is badly done but because I don't need another store and its exclusives. Until MW5 comes to Steam or, best version, GoG, it is a no buy. A 80% discount may weaken my resolve. Let's see what comes first.
Cry harder, while Epic users get "Into the Breach" for free today and 12 more free games till 31st
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Edited by draiocht, 20 December 2019 - 12:49 PM.
unconstructive
#13
Posted 19 December 2019 - 04:05 PM
#14
Posted 19 December 2019 - 05:52 PM
#15
Posted 20 December 2019 - 03:50 AM
Unleashed3k, on 19 December 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:
And don't forget the free $10 gift thingy, that will get recharged after every buy over $15 (if I understand it correctly).
So basically you get ten bucks of discount for every purchase until 1st of May.
"Use the $10 Epic Coupon to buy an eligible game of $14.99 or more on the store (during the promotional period) and you’ll receive another $10 Epic Coupon. Note: Coupons expire on May 1, 2020 2:59am EST."
So right now, MW5 costs $31.
I hate Epic, I hate every store except Steam, but a bargain is a bargain is a bargain, as the Ferengi would say
#16
Posted 20 December 2019 - 05:30 AM
Also combined with the discount on lots of games they currently offer and you add the 10$ on top....that is sometimes a nice drop in price.
#17
Posted 20 December 2019 - 09:14 AM
As for EPIC, I caved in and got it to get MW5. I will agree, it is mediocre at best, but I have had no issues with it, and I WAS one of the anti-EPIC store guys originally, including cancelling my pre-order of MW5. Could it get a facelift? Sure, but its not THAT bad and it doesn't have as much clutter as STEAM. BTW.... MW5 Really isn't THAT bad. Could it use a few changes here and there? Sure, but nothing that can't be fixed later and nothing game breaking.
#18
Posted 20 December 2019 - 09:18 AM
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