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[Spheroid]

Why is asserted that the BLG-1G is king without viewing the results over four waves? Multiple Viragos save enough weight to make a difference later in the match.

Hellbringers are also MUCH quicker to reach firing position on say Alpine.

[Temporary Axis]

Spheroid, on 28 December 2019 - 11:14 PM, said:

Why is asserted that the BLG-1G is king without viewing the results over four waves? Multiple Viragos save enough weight to make a difference later in the match.

Hellbringers are also MUCH quicker to reach firing position on say Alpine.

It has superior mounts, armour and firepower to anything else including the hellbringer.

You're also comparing IS drop tonnage limits to clan for some illogical reason as to why the hellbringer is better.

If I were trying to save tonnage I would run two er ppc blackjacks (THE BEST POPTART IN THE GAME AND IT'S IS *MULTIPLE GASPS*) and then fill with two battlemasters

GG EZ farm

Edited by Temporary Axis, 28 December 2019 - 11:27 PM.

[denAirwalkerrr]

Spheroid, on 28 December 2019 - 11:14 PM, said:

Why is asserted that the BLG-1G is king without viewing the results over four waves? Multiple Viragos save enough weight to make a difference later in the match.

Hellbringers are also MUCH quicker to reach firing position on say Alpine.

In vacuum 12v12 BLRs easily win due to more armor, better mounts and higher alpha. And call me when you see team with 12 Viragos.

[Y E O N N E]

Temporary Axis, on 28 December 2019 - 11:27 PM, said:

It has superior mounts, armour and firepower to anything else including the hellbringer.

You're also comparing IS drop tonnage limits to clan for some illogical reason as to why the hellbringer is better.

If I were trying to save tonnage I would run two er ppc blackjacks (THE BEST POPTART IN THE GAME AND IT'S IS *MULTIPLE GASPS*) and then fill with two battlemasters

GG EZ farm

The BJ-3 is also very strong with ERLLs if slinging ERPPCs is too hard for people. Pack in 4, all on high mounts, and alpha strike for ez trade.

[Spheroid]

Virago is quite good 954m with only a TC2. I am just asking how severe the disadvantage is over four waves. At most you are bringing two Battlemasters, some of which will incur damage wave one.

[denAirwalkerrr]

Y E O N N E, on 28 December 2019 - 11:30 PM, said:

The BJ-3 is also very strong with ERLLs if slinging ERPPCs is too hard for people. Pack in 4, all on high mounts, and alpha strike for ez trade.

Ok PRIMO

[Temporary Axis]

Spheroid, on 28 December 2019 - 11:30 PM, said:

Virago is quite good 954m with only a TC2. I am just asking how severe the disadvantage is over four waves. At most you are bringing two Battlemasters, some of which will incur damage wave one.

At one kilometer if you are standing in the open and being shot, you're doing so by choice. Staying in cover the extra 40 meters is child's play.

[denAirwalkerrr]

Spheroid, on 28 December 2019 - 11:30 PM, said:

Virago is quite good 954m with only a TC2. I am just asking how severe the disadvantage is over four waves. At most you are bringing two Battlemasters, some of which will incur damage wave one.

I present to you clan +10% Range+TC7 mech with 4xERLL. You can safely sit over 2km and tickle enemies with no chance for them to retaliate and only for 70t. PGI plz nerf this monster!

Edited by denAirwalkerrr, 28 December 2019 - 11:42 PM.

[Nightbird]

FP isn't about range as much as about DPS. Teams running 9 sustained DPS and 800 range will always win over teams running 6 DPS and 1000 meters range. It's not hard to sneak into your own optimal range taking little or no damage, and murder the enemy.

I always laugh when I see the 3ERLL Viragos running TC7 and alphaing. Enjoy that extra 3 points of damage from all that "range", as I will be within my optimal for the next one.

[Vxheous]

Vxheous, on 28 December 2019 - 11:30 AM, said:

901m range on super high mounts on Battlemaster 1G, tell me again how you can't trade vs clan with IS? You're spouting off about Comp/WC, yet don't even have a clue that EmP pre-dominantly used IS Assaults as our long ranged options (Battlemaster 1G, Stalker 5S, even Annihilator 1P)


2 RL 10 to make your side torsos extra tanky with bay doors closed:

This my my post from Page 3.....with the ERLL range shown in the screenshots....

Compare to a 5 ERLL Mad IIc:


All 3 mechs are 85 tons. The 18-24m range difference doesn't mean a whole lot when trading at 900-1100m, especially when factoring hitboxes, burn duration and the ability to alpha 5 ERLL on the IS side.

[GROLSCH]

Excuse me sir, but I don't believe there are any missile doors on the side torsos of the stalker

[Vxheous]

GROLSCH, on 29 December 2019 - 01:01 AM, said:

Excuse me sir, but I don't believe there are any missile doors on the side torsos of the stalker

Hmm, you're right, they're in the arms

Edit:

Edited by Vxheous, 29 December 2019 - 01:33 AM.

[justcallme A S H]

Spheroid, on 28 December 2019 - 11:14 PM, said:

Why is asserted that the BLG-1G is king without viewing the results over four waves? Multiple Viragos save enough weight to make a difference later in the match.

Hellbringers are also MUCH quicker to reach firing position on say Alpine.

Because, it is? It dominates a Virago...

Further to that - what long range sniping match EVER goes to 4 waves? Oh yeah, they don't. So there goes your entire argument out the window because it never does, 2 waves typically and 3 waves in rare circumstances.

I mean you run a WLF-2 with 3MPL/2ML, you have no place to be commenting on anything relating to effectiveness of builds, strategy or gameplay.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 29 December 2019 - 01:15 AM.

[denAirwalkerrr]

justcallme A S H, on 29 December 2019 - 01:14 AM, said:

Because, it is? It dominates a Virago...

Further to that - what long range sniping match EVER goes to 4 waves? Oh yeah, they don't. So there goes your entire argument out the window because it never does, 2 waves typically and 3 waves in rare circumstances.

I mean you run a WLF-2 with 3MPL/2ML, you have no place to be commenting on anything relating to effectiveness of builds, strategy or gameplay.

Still better then f****** 4xMPL Grinners at semis

[Vxheous]

denAirwalkerrr, on 29 December 2019 - 01:28 AM, said:

Still better then f****** 4xMPL Grinners at semis

The fear of ATMs is real

[Scout Derek]

[justcallme A S H]

Novakaine, on 28 December 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

I don't know so............................................

Well we are all aware you don't know.

I mean you regularly insinuate people hack when you get flogged sideways and when no one is actually hacking.




I bet you are also on your 12-man comms saying the same totally and utterly ill-informed garbage.

To insinuate and accuse people of hacking is disgraceful. Especially when they aren't and you have no evidence to back up your claim. If your unit leadership had any balls they'd tell you to put a sock in it and improve rather than cry wolf.

Edited by justcallme A S H, 29 December 2019 - 04:58 AM.

[The Jewce Iz Loose]

HHOD, disband, come to MS, I will personally lead you, but you are going to have to listen and drop your bad mech's and strats. I will not let people lrm all maps all the time. You are going to have to learn how to shoot direct fire weapons. Unlike most people on here that will only bash you, and won't teach you I will take up the challenge.

Edited by The Jewce Iz Loose, 29 December 2019 - 05:35 AM.

[Brauer]

The Jewce Iz Loose, on 29 December 2019 - 05:33 AM, said:

HHOD, disband, come to MS, I will personally lead you, but you are going to have to listen and drop your bad mech's and strats. I will not let people lrm all maps all the time. You are going to have to learn how to shoot direct fire weapons. Unlike most people on here that will only bash you, and won't teach you I will take up the challenge.

Many have tried to point out strong mechs to them. In pretty much every case that info was ignored. Ignoring advice from top players is a huge mistake. I know, I certainly benefited from that advice this year. It seems most of HHoD are content to cry "clans op" and excuse poor performance with that old chestnut (or in at least one case hackusations) rather than learn game mechanics and improve. It's going to be a rough go for them until the servers shut down in that case.

[The Jewce Iz Loose]

Brauer, on 29 December 2019 - 05:58 AM, said:

Many have tried to point out strong mechs to them. In pretty much every case that info was ignored. Ignoring advice from top players is a huge mistake. I know, I certainly benefited from that advice this year. It seems most of HHoD are content to cry "clans op" and excuse poor performance with that old chestnut (or in at least one case hackusations) rather than learn game mechanics and improve. It's going to be a rough go for them until the servers shut down in that case.

Offering a lot more than just some simple advice, reread and try to understand that