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#21 Ignatius Audene

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 03:16 AM

Shame on u. Now i have to buy another Battlemaster ;). In fact 2 since i want another 6 erlarge big xl for 2nd wave domination matches.

#22 Grumpy Old Man

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 07:40 AM

Bought 2 Battlemasters and a Laser Warhammer. Had two embarrassing matches in them, trying to skill them. I can already tell that this is going to be painful.

#23 Vxheous

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 07:59 AM

View PostGrumpy Old Man, on 05 January 2020 - 07:40 AM, said:

Bought 2 Battlemasters and a Laser Warhammer. Had two embarrassing matches in them, trying to skill them. I can already tell that this is going to be painful.


You cant skill ERLL Battlemasters in quick play, they are not suited for it

#24 Ssamout

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 08:15 AM

View PostGrumpy Old Man, on 05 January 2020 - 07:40 AM, said:

Bought 2 Battlemasters and a Laser Warhammer. Had two embarrassing matches in them, trying to skill them. I can already tell that this is going to be painful.

As Vx said, they dont really work in qp, especially with erll. If you have to use battlemasters in qp switch to 3x LL/LPL + 4x ML/MPL. Rarely qp match is slow paced enough to use erll's, they really are not the weapons you wanna use on a nascar circuit.

#25 MisterSomaru

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 12:38 PM

View PostGrumpy Old Man, on 05 January 2020 - 07:40 AM, said:

Bought 2 Battlemasters and a Laser Warhammer. Had two embarrassing matches in them, trying to skill them. I can already tell that this is going to be painful.

faction builds often differ from quick play builds, especially specialist builds like that that are generally spicy. they have lower dps and rely on holding positions, something that isn't done in quicks. swap the build out to lpl and erml to skill it. and for the warhammer, just do 3 LL and the rest erml.

#26 Grumpy Old Man

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 01:33 PM

Yeah, I got that after my two Polar Highland matches. I am currently playing the Warhammer with 2LL and 6 MLs, as I still had those. I only had enough money to buy the Mechs and outfit one of them. Will have to see what I can field that will work at least somewhat in quickplay,

At least the agility of the Battlemaster wasn't too bad. Either way, I could use a double exp weekend.

#27 MisterSomaru

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 02:10 PM

View PostGrumpy Old Man, on 05 January 2020 - 01:33 PM, said:

Yeah, I got that after my two Polar Highland matches. I am currently playing the Warhammer with 2LL and 6 MLs, as I still had those. I only had enough money to buy the Mechs and outfit one of them. Will have to see what I can field that will work at least somewhat in quickplay,

At least the agility of the Battlemaster wasn't too bad. Either way, I could use a double exp weekend.

I could always use that :P

#28 Vxheous

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 04:02 PM

3 LL 6 ERML works well (hot) on the warhammer 6D for lvling purposes

#29 Nightbird

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 04:08 PM

You don't need to bring assaults, they're mainly used for farming pugs. Against good teams 3 heavies and a medium works better.

(The one exception is some long range assaults for snipy maps)

#30 Leone

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/249933-community-warfare-a-primer-by-leone/
If'n your looking to try some Community Warfare, I've some old advice for ya. I found it the best game mode myself, so I'd at least suggest giving it a try.

~Leone, of Kell's Commandos

Edited by Leone, 06 January 2020 - 03:58 PM.


#31 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 07:11 PM

View PostNightbird, on 04 January 2020 - 03:59 PM, said:

Stay out of FP until you feel like everyone in QP are idiots for playing that boring mode Posted Image


That will happen the moment someone normally reaches Tier 3. By the time they're Tier 2, they'll be bored of the game.

View PostSsamout, on 05 January 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:

As Vx said, they dont really work in qp, especially with erll. If you have to use battlemasters in qp switch to 3x LL/LPL + 4x ML/MPL. Rarely qp match is slow paced enough to use erll's, they really are not the weapons you wanna use on a nascar circuit.


5 LPL Battlemasters are pretty good in QP. You can quickly rack up the damage and kills with the short but deadly pulse laser burns. Just need to invest in Cool Run and Cool Shots nodes first.

#32 evilelrond

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 10:15 PM

I wish the old community teamspeaks were still in their prime. They were a great place to get introd to fw. I reccomend anyone, no matter how ready you think you and your team are, spend some time dropping alongside the currently active fw units. Theyll tesch you more than you can learn here.

#33 Yondu Udonta

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:58 PM

Personally for me BLRs are XL because they usually die from CT deaths. 5ERLL is when you anticipate easy opponents (don't need much to win trades) and 6ERLL is for hard opponents. TC is 2 or 1 because anything bigger would fift a DHS. I feel that maxing out on DHS and a small TC is the right balance in FP.

#34 Ssamout

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Posted 07 January 2020 - 06:24 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 06 January 2020 - 07:11 PM, said:

5 LPL Battlemasters are pretty good in QP. You can quickly rack up the damage and kills with the short but deadly pulse laser burns. Just need to invest in Cool Run and Cool Shots nodes first.

Sure, thats the old meta before LPL's got nerfed, played like a year or two with battlemasters and banshees in that loadout everyday.. Loads of fun memories drilling ct's. It was the 'clan op' time, and lpls's just wrecked faces.

If guys are low on cbills and xp, I'd skip coolrun&shots and use ll's with erml/ml and grind.

#35 -Winter

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 06:57 PM

View PostMrSomaru, on 04 January 2020 - 12:13 AM, said:

Please stay out of faction until you've gained a proper roster of mechs for the two major ranges in faction, mid, and long.
And, take the time to learn the maps, and take the time to learn to twist, shoot, and kill. As is, you won't have a good time there amongst those that can instantly nuke your mech, nor will your own team appreciate a 25+ minute long sandbag along for the ride.
This is just to alleviate problems on both sides of the spectrum. Spend time in quick play until you are ready. There's even a warning as soon as you go to the faction screen.

You don't have to worry about new players staying, or wanting to get back into FW lol. If the queue times don't deter players, then the pug experience will. Getting bumped from queue even though you were first to join because of groups. That and between Toxic vets and AIDS strats (3 Lances ALL Assassins, LRM Boats w/ Stealth Narcs etc) new players don't have fun.

View PostSsamout, on 04 January 2020 - 11:58 AM, said:

One way to gauge how you are doing in fp is to look at damage scores after the match.
On a win, you side has roughly 14,5k damage to split between you all. That averages to about 1200dmg / player. If one doesnt do 1k damage in a fp, it means someone has done a bit of carrying for you.
Doing less than 400dmg means you are always carried, and you die too fast. 400dmg = 100dmg/mech = 2 shots / mech.

It's also easy to blame low damage numbers on new players, but what excuse do the stacked hero mech bay players have for sub 1k? I drop 2x Dakka Assault, 1x SRM Huntsman, 1x Piranha on most and its rather easy to get north of 1k. 1k is below average most games when half the team is over 2k. <-- Those guys are the ones I want to learn from.

Maybe this has just been my experience, but maybe give new players a chance to experience the game and take the loss and help them out anyway? Instead of the "Oh no he dropped in a trial mech (because he didn't have the right fourth mech to meet tonnage for this deck he's testing) how dare he... lets gut his CT..."

Edited by Winter VII, 08 January 2020 - 08:08 PM.


#36 Vxheous

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 07:08 PM

View PostWinter VII, on 08 January 2020 - 06:57 PM, said:

You don't have to worry about new players staying, or wanting to get back into FW lol. If the queue times don't deter players, then the pug experience will. Between the toxic vets and AIDS strats (3 Lances ALL Assassins, LRM Boats w/ Stealth Narcs etc) new players don't have fun.

It's also easy to blame low damage numbers on new players, but what excuse do the stacked hero mech bay players have for sub 1k? I drop 2x Dakka Assault, 1x SRM Huntsman, 1x Piranha on most and its rather easy to get north of 1k. 1k is below average most games when half the team is over 2k. &lt;-- Those guys are the ones I want to learn from.

Maybe give new players a chance to experience the game and take the loss and help them out anyway? Oh no he dropped in a trial mech because he didn't have the right fourth mech to meet tonnage for this deck he's testing how dare he... lets gut his CT...


Wut

#37 -Winter

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 07:58 PM

View PostVxheous, on 08 January 2020 - 07:08 PM, said:

Wut

I edited in the quotes as it did come off as just a rant.

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 08:09 PM

View PostWinter VII, on 08 January 2020 - 06:57 PM, said:

"Oh no he dropped in a trial mech (because he didn't have the right fourth mech to meet tonnage for this deck he's testing) how dare he... lets gut his CT..."


have you ever seriously seen this happen?

#39 -Winter

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 08:12 PM

View PostHazeclaw, on 08 January 2020 - 08:09 PM, said:


have you ever seriously seen this happen?


The action, yes. Twice to me and another. The quote, idk comms are usually dead in the FP games I join so I just wrote what I figured they were saying in their heads idk lol.

Edited by Winter VII, 08 January 2020 - 08:16 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 08:32 PM

View PostWinter VII, on 08 January 2020 - 08:12 PM, said:


The action, yes. Twice to me and another. The quote, idk comms are usually dead in the FP games I join so I just wrote what I figured they were saying in their heads idk lol.


save screenshot and send to pgi support. They will ban players for this. I've heard lots of jokes dropped about cadets in trial mechs, but I've never seen someone get shot for it, that's bs and unacceptable





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