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#1 Smooky the husky

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Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:08 PM

I can understand we all make team damage by accident but . if in next update you can off the team friendly Damage /,? .. World of tank be the same issu now he did turn that off and is very good now . if mechwarriore can do same ? . i hit a little my team because i not have much place for my mouse some time i hit it and the fire laser did go on my team when not wanted . or peopel go front me when i shoot enemies x-x is thing more annoying . so for suggestions is posible to turn damage team off ?

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Posted 31 January 2020 - 07:00 AM

View PostSmooky the husky, on 30 January 2020 - 04:08 PM, said:

I can understand we all make team damage by accident but . if in next update you can off the team friendly Damage /,? .. World of tank be the same issu now he did turn that off and is very good now . if mechwarriore can do same ? . i hit a little my team because i not have much place for my mouse some time i hit it and the fire laser did go on my team when not wanted . or peopel go front me when i shoot enemies x-x is thing more annoying . so for suggestions is posible to turn damage team off ?

I am sure that your gunnery skills will improve and soon you will have no problems with friendly fire.

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Posted 10 February 2020 - 09:11 AM

I have another request within the topic...
This game MUST HAVE friendly damage notifier like "#username inflicted you #number damage". I'm sick of those idiots, who shoot my back for fun ...and to figure out, who is that idiot this time.
So, "report friendly damage" option makes no much sense without the thing I mentioned above.

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 10:04 AM

View PostGeravind, on 10 February 2020 - 09:11 AM, said:

I have another request within the topic...
This game MUST HAVE friendly damage notifier like "#username inflicted you #number damage". I'm sick of those idiots, who shoot my back for fun ...and to figure out, who is that idiot this time.
So, "report friendly damage" option makes no much sense without the thing I mentioned above.

Honestly, that "report friendly damage" option is obsolete now, as would be that "friendly damage notifier".

The new automated system punishes friendly damagers and team killers automatically, reported or not.

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 10:30 AM

martian, I just want to know instantly, which **** shot me for fun ...and to discern friendly fire from enemy fire without mistakes.

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 10:41 AM

View PostGeravind, on 13 February 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

martian, I just want to know instantly, which **** shot me for fun ...and to discern friendly fire from enemy fire without mistakes.

You can not return friendly fire because you would get exactly the same penalty - it is in the rules. The automated system works that way too.

And it is quite possible that the friendly player, who damaged you, will be in your team in the next drop again. His name and everything else is irrelevant.

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Posted 13 February 2020 - 11:23 AM

I just want to know ...guaranteed.

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 04:29 PM

Requests:
Team damage should show up instantly on the shooters screen, in case it is a situation where they see a red target marker on the far side of a team mate. Big white letters and Bitchin Betty, [Check Fire!] three times. No surprises at the end of the match and a chance to apologize before it is too late. I think that apology would resolve a lot of problems. End of match is too late. The victim is going to disco in anger, maybe before the end score. The shooter may well finish the match and be sitting with his mouth hanging open seeing the Team Damage on the score card and not know how or when it happened and have no way to know who the other player was and no way to say they are sorry.

Team damage, (multiplied by something like 4) should be deducted from score.

A team kill should mean no XP or C-bill for the match.


Real team killers? I don't see much to do unless they want to flag reported TKers to have their games recorded and saved for review if TD is recorded. There is still one notorious TKer playing, I spectated him today after I got killed and he is still playing the same sneaky games, crowding right behind a mech, hitting them in the back and legs, not letting them back out of a firing position. No doubt in my mind it was deliberate.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:00 AM

Nearly Dead, I got a teamkill once, because a stupid teammate on a light mech went facehugging last crossfired target. And he got less 10dmg from me, so... But revoking payment from a single match — not a big deal, though.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:36 AM

View Postmartian, on 13 February 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

Honestly, that "report friendly damage" option is obsolete now, as would be that "friendly damage notifier".
The new automated system punishes friendly damagers and team killers automatically, reported or not.
The report option is for deliberate team damage / team kills, ie cases where you want PGI's moderation team to step in.

View Postmartian, on 13 February 2020 - 10:41 AM, said:

And it is quite possible that the friendly player, who damaged you, will be in your team in the next drop again. His name and everything else is irrelevant.
What is relevant in that request, though, is information whether the damage was accidental FF or an enemy backstabber hitting your team's rear.

View PostNearly Dead, on 14 February 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Team damage, (multiplied by something like 4) should be deducted from score.
Team damage already receives a score penalty. So do teamkills.

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A team kill should mean no XP or C-bill for the match.
Sorry, no. Accidental TKs still happen. I guess you never saw dumb ****s on your team run right into your own arty strike...

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Real team killers? I don't see much to do unless they want to flag reported TKers to have their games recorded and saved for review if TD is recorded. There is still one notorious TKer playing, I spectated him today after I got killed and he is still playing the same sneaky games, crowding right behind a mech, hitting them in the back and legs, not letting them back out of a firing position. No doubt in my mind it was deliberate.
Then take screenshots of the event, take screenshots of the match end screen (for the match ID) and e-mail moderation@mwomercs.com with your report.

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Posted Yesterday, 01:42 AM

View PostGeravind, on 13 February 2020 - 11:23 AM, said:

I just want to know ...guaranteed.

As I said, the automated system already does all the necessary work, even without your report.

View PostNearly Dead, on 14 February 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Requests:
Team damage should show up instantly on the shooters screen, in case it is a situation where they see a red target marker on the far side of a team mate. Big white letters and Bitchin Betty, [Check Fire!] three times. No surprises at the end of the match and a chance to apologize before it is too late. I think that apology would resolve a lot of problems. End of match is too late. The victim is going to disco in anger, maybe before the end score. The shooter may well finish the match and be sitting with his mouth hanging open seeing the Team Damage on the score card and not know how or when it happened and have no way to know who the other player was and no way to say they are sorry.

There is much simpler solution that was already implemented in MechWarrior 4: Using colour-coded reticule. Blue for friendly 'Mechs and red for enemy 'Mechs. Even the biggest fool can discern between blue and red.

As for saying sorry, I could not care less.

Check the picture:

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View PostNearly Dead, on 14 February 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Team damage, (multiplied by something like 4) should be deducted from score.

A team kill should mean no XP or C-bill for the match.

Hell, no. If some ******* killstealer spends the game watching me fighting the enemy 'Mech and then jumps in front of me in the last moment to steal my kill when I am pulling the trigger to finish the enemy 'Mech ... I have no problem with that killstealer eating my fire.

View PostNearly Dead, on 14 February 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

Real team killers? I don't see much to do unless they want to flag reported TKers to have their games recorded and saved for review if TD is recorded. There is still one notorious TKer playing, I spectated him today after I got killed and he is still playing the same sneaky games, crowding right behind a mech, hitting them in the back and legs, not letting them back out of a firing position. No doubt in my mind it was deliberate.

I can not comment on this, since I do not see a lot of team killers in Tier 1 games.

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Posted Yesterday, 02:46 AM

View Postmartian, on 15 February 2020 - 01:42 AM, said:

As I said, the automated system already does all the necessary work, even without your report.

It doesn't. I want instantly know, who shot me every single time.

And I had already 3 cases, when stupid teammates stepped into my strategic strike, even after my warning beforehand.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:20 AM

View PostGeravind, on 15 February 2020 - 02:46 AM, said:

It doesn't. I want instantly know, who shot me every single time.

Sure, but such knowledge is not going to help you any way. There is absolutely nothing what you can do to a player who caused a friendly damage.

View PostGeravind, on 15 February 2020 - 02:46 AM, said:

And I had already 3 cases, when stupid teammates stepped into my strategic strike, even after my warning beforehand.

Yeah, this is nothing unusual.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:34 AM

View Postmartian, on 15 February 2020 - 03:20 AM, said:

Sure, but such knowledge is not going to help you any way. There is absolutely nothing what you can do to a player who caused a friendly damage.

Man, in a game, where every freaking second means much, it WILL help me. I'm trying to explain in from the beginning.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:38 AM

View PostGeravind, on 15 February 2020 - 03:34 AM, said:

Man, in a game, where every freaking second means much, it WILL help me. I'm trying to explain in from the beginning.

And I am telling you that there is nothing you can do with it in the current game, between games and that you are probably having that same player in your next game.

#16 Geravind

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Posted Yesterday, 05:17 AM

F*ck "that player" — I must know for sure, do I have enemy in my back or not.

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Posted Yesterday, 05:35 AM

You are in a PUG team and you are playing against another PUG team - you have enemies both in front of you and behind you ...

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