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#161 Prototelis

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:09 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 02:06 PM, said:


Hey boy, I POOLED ARMOUR, exactly how you describe it, managed aggro so the guy couldn't get a shot on me.

I took your tactic and OWNED it! Don't be mad, be honoured.


There is no health pooling in a 1v1.

You ran away. GG obsidiantiger

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:14 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 02:09 PM, said:

There is no health pooling in a 1v1.

You ran away. GG obsidiantiger


HEY! don't you talk trash about obsidiantiger, or he'll tell you to 1v1 him IRL at his house! lmao

#163 Prototelis

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:16 PM

^The other day he was on the OPfor in faction and he got so wound up he came out of his drop 2-4 minutes late (too busy typing).


Enough time for me to run a vulcan to the other side of the map and be there to farm him when he finally stopped **** talking.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:16 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 02:09 PM, said:

There is no health pooling in a 1v1.

You ran away. GG obsidiantiger


You clearly don't understand how health pooling works.

I didn't just run away, I tactically ran away.

#165 Prototelis

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:53 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:


You clearly don't understand how health pooling works.



I clearly understand that health pooling requires more than one person in order to pool health. lawl.

Wut even.

But hey, good job hiding in a Solaris match because you're afraid to lose.

Edited by Prototelis, 08 March 2020 - 02:54 PM.


#166 VonBruinwald

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:58 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 02:53 PM, said:

I clearly understand that health pooling requires more than one person in order to pool health. lawl.


Clearly you don't actually understand how it works. If you're incapable of managing aggro solo that's ok.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 02:53 PM, said:

But hey, good job hiding in a Solaris match because you're afraid to lose.


You clearly don't understand how a draw works in Solaris.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:01 PM

Can you two put a ring on it already and just ****?

#168 VonBruinwald

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:03 PM

View PostDrtyDshSoap, on 08 March 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

Can you two put a ring on it already and just ****?




#169 FupDup

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:05 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand how health pooling works.

I didn't just run away, I tactically ran away.

You advanced in the opposite direction!

View PostDrtyDshSoap, on 08 March 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

Can you two put a ring on it already and just ****?

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#170 Prototelis

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:08 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand how a draw works in Solaris.


I know exactly how ties work; both participants essentially lose. It is a strategy that is only employed seriously by salty bads out of spite.

You don't get to call anyone out for cowardice if you're going to behave that way, lol.

View PostDrtyDshSoap, on 08 March 2020 - 03:01 PM, said:

Can you two put a ring on it already and just ****?



Not my type.

Also I'm big spoon.

#171 Horseman

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:15 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand how a draw works in Solaris.
Both players take the same penalty they would for a loss. Deliberately causing a draw is just being a **** to your opponents for no reason.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 03:08 PM, said:

I know exactly how ties work; both participants essentially lose. It is a strategy that is only employed seriously by salty bads out of spite.

Exactly.

Edited by Horseman, 08 March 2020 - 03:15 PM.


#172 VonBruinwald

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:33 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 03:08 PM, said:

I know exactly how ties work; both participants essentially lose. It is a strategy that is only employed seriously by salty bads out of spite.


You clearly don't understand how a tactical victory works.

View PostHorseman, on 08 March 2020 - 03:15 PM, said:

Both players take the same penalty they would for a loss. Deliberately causing a draw is just being a **** to your opponents for no reason.


If you're going to wait with your back to a wall you deserve that draw.

#173 Prototelis

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:37 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 03:33 PM, said:


You clearly don't understand how a tactical victory works.



You clearly don't understand that both participants lost because you were being a salty bad.

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If you're going to wait with your back to a wall you deserve that draw.


Leveraging your hardpoints/loadout and denying your opponent the rear arc is a valid strategy.

You got out played, and decided to hop up where you couldn't be reached rather than play the game.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:44 PM

View Postthievingmagpi, on 08 March 2020 - 01:53 PM, said:



Lol, there aren't "Tons of snipers in the top tiers of grimmechs"

In fact in the QP Tiers S and A there aren't really any except for the Warhawk I guess, but that one is still built around DPS over range.


You and your like clickers are ignoring the gaussvomit meta builds.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:46 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand that both participants lost because you were being a salty bad.


You're still not comprehending what a tactical victory entails.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

Leveraging your hardpoints/loadout and denying your opponent the rear arc is a valid strategy.


It's a perfectly valid strategy, so is not walking into that front arc and taking a slug to the cockpit.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

You got out played, and decided to hop up where you couldn't be reached rather than play the game.


Your complaint is that the player got out played by the one he out played?

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 03:55 PM

View Postcougurt, on 08 March 2020 - 02:02 PM, said:

no one's saying long range builds are off-limits, just that you need to actually contribute in a meaningful way. that doesn't mean that you need to be at the front of the pack, but you need to take up good positions where you can provide overwatch or consistently harass the enemy team, as well as bring enough firepower that they can't ignore you without consequence.


I see no mention of armor sharing, pooling, or spreading your statement. With words like "overwatch," "harass," and "firepower" your statement actually seems to support my damage centric argument.

But, I am sure your gonna try to explain how it's really the armor and not the guns of the mech sniping in BFE that really makes all the difference.

Maybe your like clickers could help redefine some words to help your faction pivot more away from from your poorly defined ideology.

Edited by OmniFail, 08 March 2020 - 03:56 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2020 - 04:00 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 03:46 PM, said:


You're still not comprehending what a tactical victory entails.



You still aren't comprehending that it wasn't a victory, or even a tactical victory.

The only objective in Solaris is to kill the other mech, killing the other mech is a tactical victory.

You may be able to stretch and call it a "personal victory," but you'd be doubling down on the whole being a salty bad who displays open cowardice in the face of possible defeat.


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It's a perfectly valid strategy, so is not walking into that front arc and taking a slug to the cockpit.


The counter would have been trading, or maybe even spending a few minutes to see which mechs are in the division, but you instead decided to just run and tie.


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Your complaint is that the player got out played by the one he out played?


I don't care what you do, and I'm not complaining about what you do. I am however pointing out the irony in you calling anyone out on cowardice when you bragged about cowardice previously.

View PostOmniFail, on 08 March 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:


I see no mention of armor sharing, pooling, or spreading your statement. With words like "overwatch," "harass," and "firepower" your statement actually seems to support my damage centric argument.

But, I am sure your gonna try to explain how it's really the armor and not the guns of the mech sniping in BFE that really makes all the difference.

Maybe your like clickers could help redefine some words to help your faction pivot more away from from your poorly defined ideology.


Imagine having comprehension skills so poor you need people to actually name concepts instead of being able to infer that those are the concepts being described. I can't even call that cherry picking, because you didn't pick anything out. Weak. 2/10

Your argument is piss poor; there is no damage when there is no health.

Edited by Prototelis, 08 March 2020 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2020 - 04:25 PM

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

You still aren't comprehending that it wasn't a victory.


You're still not comprehending that tactical victory.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

The counter would have been trading, or maybe even spending a few minutes to see which mechs are in the division, but you instead decided to just run and tie.


You assume there was no prior trading, your fault. And you do know you can't switch mechs after you've launched, or are you implying I should only play the most meta mechs in each division (and by logical extension, in the most meta of play-styles), that seems pretty, shallow. Try-harder.

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

I don't care what you do, and I'm not complaining about what you do. I am however pointing out the irony in you calling anyone out on cowardice when you bragged about cowardice previously.


You're playing apples and oranges. You're do realise you're attempting to create a false equivalence?

View PostPrototelis, on 08 March 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

Imagine having comprehension skills


You and me both brother.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 04:36 PM

View PostVonBruinwald, on 08 March 2020 - 04:25 PM, said:


You're still not comprehending that tactical victory.


You still don't understand why that cannot be a "tactical victory."

You don't set the objective in the game mode; the objective is winning by killing the enemy mech.

A tie is the same thing as losing, in fact it is treated as both players losing.

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You assume there was no prior trading, your fault.


I assume you were bad at it in addition to losing in the mech lab. Which are, you know, the cornerstones of playing solaris and achieving victory.

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And you do know you can't switch mechs after you've launched, or are you implying I should only play the most meta mechs in each division (and by logical extension, in the most meta of play-styles), that seems pretty, shallow.


Most of the mechs I've used in Solaris aren't meta, and instead are either counter mechs or extreme memes. (IE, I play a 6ac2 RL40 KGC in Div 1 pretty much exclusively for the RL memes.)

But how dare someone evaluate what is in a division and attempt to play the mechlab correctly lol. Imagine playing a game in which the only objecting is to win and not trying to win.


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You're do realise you're attempting to create a false equivalence?


You do realize this isn't a false equivalence?

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 04:50 PM

I do both at 1112m out in a lrm light. I share that armor slot so some one else can use a bigger more weighty mech and I harass with psychological and physical warfare. Incoming missile. gotta love that annoying little in-yur-face warning. We need such a warning for other weapons too. Mix up the game a bit. Incoming ac,Incoming guass,Incoming rac the possibilities are endless. Er ml out to 900m I'll take it!

Your paint has been scratched by JediPanther.Do you:
1. Return fire.
2. Cry like baby and chase annoying squirrel.
3. Post a nerf thread about armor sharing.
4. Quit the game.
5. Kill it last and spend one week and 300,000 c-bills to repaint your mech.





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